This is your fix for crabs?
I went to blight crabs to get the 10 blighted carapace I need for Niesa King of Potions Draught. I used to be able to take (1 at a time) 2 - 4 crabs before i died. I can deal with that. but now?? What is with making everything avoid ranger attacks? The following is just a small part of the results I had with Blight Crab fight.
[04/17/17 03:41:44] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:44] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:44] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:44] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:45] You used Pinned on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:45] You used Pinned on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:45] You used Pinned on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:45] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:46] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:46] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:46] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:46] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:47] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:47] You hit Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry for 76 ice damage.
[04/17/17 03:41:47] You hit Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry for 81 ice damage.
[04/17/17 03:41:47] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:47] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:48] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:48] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:48] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:48] You hit Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry for 88 ice damage.
[04/17/17 03:41:48] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:50] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:51] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:52] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:53] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:54] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:55] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:57] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:57] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:59] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:00] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:42:01] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:02] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
Now in conclusion, keep in mind this is just a few seconds of the fight. the entire log file is like this, until I died. This business of making everything able to avoid rangers, is going to kill this school. 80% of my attacks on a lot of mobs lately are dodged, or very low damage (low damage against most bosses in the game) I am getting very frustrated playing archer classes anymore. I can't hit Daknor (this is supposed to be being looked into) I was lucky to ocassionally hit Falgut for more than 23 points per hit in my last fight with him. Same goes for anchors. Now, I know they change resistances, so it's a matter of keeping up. But come on, there's a point of taking things to far. I should NOT need a group, to kill blighted crabs, and now you have added more health and dodge to boot........
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
That some dodgy crab there
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
No additional dodge was added. The only upgrades were to their health and their offensive skill. I would check what debuffs you might have had on you at the time.
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
In addition to being aware of the debuffs you've got at the time, I'd also suggest going after blight crabs in a school that can use spirit spells. That way you can take advantage of the fact that their hardened shell buff makes them extra weak against the spirit spells that use ethereal damage. It's significantly easier that way... to the point where I just won't hunt them in non-mystic schools.
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
Unless these crabs cast things I can not see.... It was only one fight, with one crab. I couldn't hit it very well from the start. I can give you the entire log file. I was online from 3:11 (mainly standing in augh) at 3:37am I teleported to delgarath and ran to blight crabs. attacked one crab and as you can see.. I even missed him on my very first shot. At 3:43 I was dead. and no debuffs.
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[04/17/17 03:11:04] You are now bound to Aughundell Shrine.
[04/17/17 03:11:11] You have joined the MarketPlace chat channel.
[04/17/17 03:37:46] You paid a teleport fee of 440 copper.
[04/17/17 03:38:03] You began casting Gift of Armor V.
[04/17/17 03:38:06] You cast Gift of Armor V.
[04/17/17 03:38:07] You began casting Gift of Dexterity V.
[04/17/17 03:38:09] You cast Gift of Dexterity V.
[04/17/17 03:38:09] You began casting Gift of Health V.
[04/17/17 03:38:11] You began casting Gift of Alacrity V.
[04/17/17 03:38:11] You cast Gift of Health V.
[04/17/17 03:38:14] You cast Gift of Alacrity V.
[04/17/17 03:38:15] You began casting Gift of Speed V.
[04/17/17 03:38:17] You cast Gift of Speed V.
[04/17/17 03:38:20] You used Rapid Fire Stance.
[04/17/17 03:38:23] You used Energize II.
[04/17/17 03:38:36] Risen Researcher used Shield Stance.
[04/17/17 03:38:38] Risen Researcher used Aura of Death III.
[04/17/17 03:38:40] Risen Researcher used Incorporal Shift.
[04/17/17 03:38:42] Risen Researcher used Evasive Style III.
[04/17/17 03:39:34] You used Nature's Path.
[04/17/17 03:41:02] Pathfinding has faded.
[04/17/17 03:41:04] You used Ice Arrows I.
[04/17/17 03:41:07] Invalid target for Long Shot I.
[04/17/17 03:41:12] Target is 23m out of range.
[04/17/17 03:41:12] You missed Blight Crab with Long Shot I.
[04/17/17 03:41:14] Target is 8m out of range.
[04/17/17 03:41:18] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:20] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:22] Blight Crab missed you with Blighted Spray VI.
[04/17/17 03:41:22] You used Ranged Flurry III.
[04/17/17 03:41:23] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:23] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:23] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:23] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:23] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:23] Pausing current action because you are moving.
[04/17/17 03:41:25] Blight Crab hit you for 125 crush damage.
[04/17/17 03:41:26] You used Pinned on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:27] Ice Arrows I has faded.
[04/17/17 03:41:27] You hit Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry for 78 ice damage.
[04/17/17 03:41:27] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:27] You hit Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry for 97 ice damage.
[04/17/17 03:41:27] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:28] Pausing current action because you are moving.
[04/17/17 03:41:29] Blight Crab missed you with Blighted Syphon V.
[04/17/17 03:41:31] You used Lightning Arrows III.
[04/17/17 03:41:32] Target is 5m out of range.
[04/17/17 03:41:34] Target is 5m out of range.
[04/17/17 03:41:36] Target is 5m out of range.
[04/17/17 03:41:38] Lightning Arrows III has faded.
[04/17/17 03:41:38] Target is 5m out of range.
[04/17/17 03:41:39] Target is 5m out of range.
[04/17/17 03:41:40] You used Ice Arrows I.
[04/17/17 03:41:44] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:44] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:44] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:44] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:45] You used Pinned on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:45] You used Pinned on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:45] You used Pinned on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:45] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:46] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:46] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:46] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:46] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:47] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:47] You hit Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry for 76 ice damage.
[04/17/17 03:41:47] You hit Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry for 81 ice damage.
[04/17/17 03:41:47] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:47] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:48] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:48] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:48] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:48] You hit Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry for 88 ice damage.
[04/17/17 03:41:48] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:50] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:51] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:52] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:53] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:54] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:55] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:57] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:41:57] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:41:59] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:00] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:42:01] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:02] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:42:02] Pausing current action because you are moving.
[04/17/17 03:42:03] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:11] You used Frozen I on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:42:11] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:42:11] You hit Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry for 68 ice damage.
[04/17/17 03:42:12] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:42:12] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:14] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:15] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:42:16] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:17] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:42:18] Pausing current action because you are moving.
[04/17/17 03:42:18] Blight Crab hit you with Blighted Spray VI for 4 blight damage.
[04/17/17 03:42:18] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:21] Blight Crab missed you.
[04/17/17 03:42:21] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:42:22] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:24] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:25] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:42:26] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:27] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:42:28] Blight Crab hit you with Grinding Mandibles for 257 slash damage.
[04/17/17 03:42:28] Pausing current action because you are moving.
[04/17/17 03:42:28] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:32] You used Pinned on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:42:32] You began casting Flame Attack IV.
[04/17/17 03:42:32] Blight Crab hit you with Blighted Spray VI for 3 blight damage.
[04/17/17 03:42:33] You hit Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry for 65 ice damage.
[04/17/17 03:42:34] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:42:34] You cast Flame Attack IV.
[04/17/17 03:42:35] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:36] Pausing current action because you are moving.
[04/17/17 03:42:38] Blight Crab missed you with Blighted Syphon V.
[04/17/17 03:42:40] Target is 29m out of range.
[04/17/17 03:42:42] Target is 29m out of range.
[04/17/17 03:42:44] Target is 33m out of range.
[04/17/17 03:42:46] Target is 35m out of range.
[04/17/17 03:42:48] Target is 24m out of range.
[04/17/17 03:42:56] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:57] Pausing current action because you are moving.
[04/17/17 03:42:57] Blight Crab hit you for 115 slash damage.
[04/17/17 03:42:58] Blight Crab hit you with Razor Strike for 197 crush damage.
[04/17/17 03:42:58] Blight Crab dodged your Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:42:59] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:43:01] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:43:01] Pausing current action because you are moving.
[04/17/17 03:43:02] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:43:03] Blight Crab hit you for 114 slash damage.
[04/17/17 03:43:04] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:43:05] You began using Demon's Flurry on Blight Crab.
[04/17/17 03:43:05] Blight Crab began using Blight Blast VII on you.
[04/17/17 03:43:06] Blight Crab hit you with Blight Blast VII for 2487 blight damage.
[04/17/17 03:43:06] Blight Crab hit itself for 983 blight damage.
[04/17/17 03:43:06] You missed Blight Crab with Demon's Flurry.
[04/17/17 03:43:07] Pausing current action because you are moving.
[04/17/17 03:43:07] Blight Crab hit you with Blighted Spray VI for 3 blight damage.
[04/17/17 03:43:09] Blight Crab hit you for 114 slash damage.
[04/17/17 03:43:10] Blight Crab hit you for 224 crush damage.
[04/17/17 03:43:14] You began using Ahala's Sweet Brew.
[04/17/17 03:43:15] You are now bound to Aughundell Shrine.
[04/17/17 03:43:15] You now have 1 Death Point.
[04/17/17 03:43:15] Next Death Point will fade in 1 day 4 hours.
[04/17/17 03:43:15] Energize II has faded.
[04/17/17 03:43:15] Flame Attack IV has faded.
[04/17/17 03:43:15] Ice Arrows I has faded.
[04/17/17 03:43:15] Blighted Vision has faded.
[04/17/17 03:43:15] Gift of Armor V has faded.
[04/17/17 03:43:15] Gift of Dexterity V has faded.
[04/17/17 03:43:15] Gift of Health V has faded.
[04/17/17 03:43:15] Gift of Alacrity V has faded.
[04/17/17 03:43:15] Gift of Speed V has faded.
[04/17/17 03:43:15] Blight Crab hit you for 112 slash damage.
Closing chat log...
Show me any debuffs here.. there were none. This was a single one on one fight Me + Blight Crab. from start to finish. Now you can see the entire log file. Did they need more health? I don't think so. they already have an attack that ignores all resists (blight blast VII) which seemingly also ignores armor?
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
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Originally Posted by
Machaeon
In addition to being aware of the debuffs you've got at the time, I'd also suggest going after blight crabs in a school that can use spirit spells. That way you can take advantage of the fact that their hardened shell buff makes them extra weak against the spirit spells that use ethereal damage. It's significantly easier that way... to the point where I just won't hunt them in non-mystic schools.
I have fought enough of these crabs, to obtain 50 blighted carapace before this new patch. This is not my first encounter with them. Are they tough? yes.. but I have never had this much problem hitting them before... This also doesn't include the 10 carapace I had to get the first time I did the quest for Niesa. so total 60 blighted carapace
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
BTW: there is one more issue with blight crabs that makes no sense. A lot of times when one is killed, it says "you are not allowed to loot this right now". even though I was the only person there killing them for hours. as if someone else had killed it, or attempted to and failed. which neither is the case.
This has happened many times, on separate occasions.
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Malicore
A lot of times when one is killed, it says "you are not allowed to loot this right now". even though I was the only person there killing them for hours.
That happens when anything that isn't you kills it, including the crabs themselves. Sometimes when they commit suicide it won't count as something you can loot. It's annoying but it didn't happen many times to me personally
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
*mutters something about a Gnome curse for leaving Order that she warned Mordel about and then smiles sweetly*
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Racktor
That happens when anything that isn't you kills it, including the crabs themselves. Sometimes when they commit suicide it won't count as something you can loot. It's annoying but it didn't happen many times to me personally
I figured this might be why, but I can not confirm every death to know for sure, but still needs to be resolved if possible.
Quote:
*mutters something about a Gnome curse for leaving Order that she warned Mordel about and then smiles sweetly*
I Haven't left yet (shakes his head) :)
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
Blight Crabs do need at least one more adjustment. Either allow the Blighted Carapace comp to drop for anyone, or increase the rate for ALchemists.
As it is, after 20 kills and only 2 Carapaces, it's overkill for trying to make King of Potions Draught, which is not worth the effort for a 5 minute defensive buff you can only use once every 30 minutes.
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
An update to the OP: I went back today for more testing on the crabs. I started with normal attacks and didn't have much problem hitting them, though I still wasn't able to kill one, I was able to get pretty close. So i went back to my setting from the original post, I used ice arrow. I found that while using ice arrow on Ranger school against blight crabs, I can barely hit then, and also it lowers my range from 50 to less than 30. The main problem here seems to be the ice attack for all the misses and dodges. This issue needs to be checked out. My attacks shouldn't miss or be dodged any more just because I was using ice arrow ( I could understand lower damage or even 0 damage, but not miss and dodge nearly all my shots). and why the drop in range??
And of course, anything that does work against them IE: nature attack crystals or primal attack crystals, also majorly lowers my resistance to blight, so it nearly doubles the damage of their blight blast VII. so I am being killed in one hit by them. 3333 - 3991 damage. adding blight resist has no effect against this attack, as it ignores blight resist and all armor types it seems. This has been tested with 2800 armor and 2000+ blight resist vs 1800+ armor and 300 blight resist
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
On another note, I have also had the issue with not being able to hit Daknor, and I know you folks have been working on this issue. But it is possible it's a similar issue as with ice arrow on crabs missing (conflict) that my normal attack being Nature on Daknor could also be some kind of conflict with damage vs attack type? something to look into. I don't recall ever using anything other than lightning arrows on Daknor. so it's possible.
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
The shorter range is because the crab is hitting you with Blighted Spray which blinds you, reducing your range. Ice Arrows does nothing to the user except giving your ranged attacks the ability to slow or root the target (which shows up in your combat logs as Pinned). We compared the crab's evasion and dodge to other Tier6 monsters and they aren't anything special. Even low compared to some others.
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
AmonGwareth
The shorter range is because the crab is hitting you with Blighted Spray which blinds you, reducing your range. Ice Arrows does nothing to the user except giving your ranged attacks the ability to slow or root the target (which shows up in your combat logs as Pinned). We compared the crab's evasion and dodge to other Tier6 monsters and they aren't anything special. Even low compared to some others.
He hit me with blighted spray when I was using lightning arrows too. didn't change my range. Ice arrows changes attack type to ice damage. not just using pinned. I can see the spray being the reason for 20 - 30 range though. But as far as damage it doesn't explain miss/dodges when using ice damage via ice arrow. I just tested ice arrows on other mobs and it hits them for ice with no problems, but when using ice arrows on blight crabs it's 95% miss and dodge (this seems to me to be some sort of bug)
On top of all this, the only reason I need them is for blighted carapace. I should need a group in order to get a few carapace? and then the drop rate is maybe 1 in 5 or higher. Right now, I can't complete this Niesa quest without a group for something I should be able to kill. I'm not saying they should be easy.. but they shouldn't be this difficult to gather a few components for a quest or to make potions. and they only drop for the person with the quest, or having completed the quest. So I can not even purchase from other players (quest has a counter, btw)
This is why I put in the addendum, as I found it's when I changed to ice damage using ice arrows that I am missing and being dodged. it should not cause misses and dodges. all other attacks aren't dodged or miss that often. tested nature, primal, flame.. so dodge itself was already confirmed to NOT be the issue. Ice arrow does confirm the miss/dodge affect. when i do hit it is for ice damage. but the miss/dodge rate for the ice arrow is way too high, so has to be some type of bug
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
Final report. I went back and tested again. Ice Attack works, Violet crystal of ice damage works, Ice Arrows fail nearly 95% of the attacks (but pinned hits) as shown in my log files earlier. all my other arrow attacks seem to be fine. There is a problem with Ice Arrows hitting the blighted crabs. Go test for yourself and you will see. I hope you find the problem and resolve it, as usual. Thanks for your help
Re: This is your fix for crabs?
well, I have not tested blight crabs lately. But I am now able to hit Daknor (was always miss before) unless I have lightning arrows on, then back to missing much more often. Have to go back and test blight crabs soon
