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Just as the title asks. Was exactly was Zymosis?
I've got the 'cure zymosis' spell but I've never really heard the full story of what Zymosis was and what it did. I thought the thread should probably be here because it's an Istarian history sorta thing I think. :)
Edit: Fudge, title is Was was Zymosis. Well, in that case, I DON'T ask what the title asks, because I want to know WHAT it was, not... was it was... XD
~Galde
Zymosis Morbidae was part of an event a long time ago, before merge. If I remember right, it was a disease (debuff) that spread only between bipeds, and only dragons could cure it.
I can't remember too much about it since I think that event happened shortly after I started playing, and I was still learning the game and didn't have a biped character at that point to catch it.
There is a thread here with some of the in-game conversations of the quest NPCs.
Edit: Actually, now that I actually -look- at that thread, that seems to be the quest bipeds could do to cure themselves by running all over the place. There was a dragon too who stood outside the Gold Rage/Gift trainers' cave. I think his name was Dragon Primalist, and he was a red T-rex-headed adult if I recall correctly. He offered dragons the ability to learn the Cure Zymosis spell, but I don't remember what all was involved.
We had to go to some old destroyed houses south of Dalimond (a bit north of Heart I think, west side off the road) and kill some ghosts haunting the place for 3 pebbles of something....
Bipeds could do a quest to get a potion that gave them an ability called Immunity: Xymosis Morbidae
The Gifted freed Feladan from the grip of the Blight in 20 A.R. by destroying the Substantiators that surrounded the city, dealing the Withered Aegis a powerful defeat and pushing their armies back to Eastern Deadlands. To enact a measure of revenge for the loss of the city the Withered Aegis released Zymosis Morbidae on the population of Aradoth, a terrible plague that spread quite rapidly. But the Gifted and especially Dragons discovered a way to fight it and eventually combat it, giving themselves immunity.
Here's the original event description from internal docs:
Feladan has been freed, and the Elven people are relieved. Celebration is short-lived, however, as a crippling disease begins to spread from the once-blighted city, a last gift from those who controlled it. Sick elves hide in the corners of Feladan, dull-eyed and listless, unknowingly spreading their ailment to the hale and hearty folk who pass by.
Two factions have heard of the threatening epidemic and have stepped up to aid.
The Dragons, finding themselves immune to the disease, are using the knowledge at their disposal to cleanse the body of the plague with their primal magic. The Primalist urges his Draconic kin to slay the wraiths and ghosts, as it is suspected creatures similar to those which held Feladan may also hold the key to curing the disease. Once nine wraiths or ghosts have been slain and the items upon them retrieved, the Dragons can then return to the appropriate trainer, turn in these items, and receive a formula for the cure in exchange.
A scholar has also shown up, having studied the items that the creatures from the blight-siphoning machines shed upon death. He/she believes that, through a careful alchemical process, these items can bring immunity to the disease for those who are not gifted with Draconic constitutions. To that end, the scholar asks you to take the item to the Alchemist trainers throughout Istaria and seek their professional knowledge. Alchemists are an eccentric bunch, and no two will agree exactly what must be done with it. The process goes from one to the next, each distilling this and brewing that, “fetch me this item” and “this potion will not be complete without this,” so on down the line, until the last trainer declares it done. The lucky individual, upon drinking the potion, gains immunity to the disease in question.
In my opinion, it was one of the more complex, ingenious and insidious events I've seen in HZ. Very frusterating for bipeds though, and a lot of complaining went on, which is probably why we haven't ever seen anything of the like since. Callak just spent most of his time RPing and helping cure bipeds. It was really troubling for all races involved, but I'm glad I had a chance to experience it. It sertainly brought out the caretaker, profiteer, and dragonist personalities out of the dragon charactors, which made for some fun roleplays.
Sounds like it was fun. That said, I have the sneaking suspicion that the devs are planning something of its equal to happen soon. It's just... in the air o_o
Maybe if there's a 2nd round, it can be the reverse and drastically impact dragon stats and let bipeds be immune.
Perhaps then there won't be quite as many dragons talking about how "fun" it was.:(
Pretty safe bet that we aren't. Three games to my knowledge have done a virus that spreads by being near other players. Horizons, World of Warcraft, and Everquest 2. The outcry in all three games was tremendous and it probably won't be done again in any of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Creme
It is a really neat gameplay mechanic and a great source of RP, but it is also very open to griefing and that has a major tendency to drive players away. Which is the last thing we want to do. :)
You say that, remember, Callaks spent most of the day laying in one place in an "infermary" in Chichonis and Dolimond, or rushing off to quell the disease on NPCs in other breakout towns rather than crafting or fighting trying to help. It wasn't fun in the sense that he had much to do accept sit and one place and cure a line of waiting bipeds remember. But in the time spent waiting for cooldowns on the curative spell, I got to know many bipeds and dragons charactors a lot better, and even RP with many of them that I would have probably never met or it would have been in runby passing greeting with someone rushing to put sandstone on a wall somewhere. Yes, for these reasons I found it fun, but in a completely different way I think than what you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Creme
*rumbles in laughter* I remember it very well.
Back on Earth when the message spread of the plague, the brave dragons ventured out to aquire the cure spell. I was back then a hatchling but had always a big heart. So we formed many groups of dragon medics that where all shoving the infected bipeds in the "zoos" in the racial cities. Two and more where standing at the entrance of the zoo and when a dragon had their spell ready the biped was separated from the "Herd" and cured. Other dragons where dismissed to cure the bipeds of the cities since they also spread the virus. But well it was a figth against windmills because some careless players still stodd around the pad and cried "OMG I AIM INFECTED HEAL PLZ" Doh!
It was hilarous, dragons with their biped "herds". It really looked like that. :D And it was amusing that the mightiest bipeds crawled to the hatchies to get a cure, when before they teased them how weak they where back than.
I also don't forget one year after logged an old player in with an infected alt that didn't had a clue that this char still had the plague, and all started again, thankful most where immune but it was still hilarous. :D Then the devs coded in that the virus faded after a time you where offline. :p
This also happened on Expance where Callak was hatched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Takora Drakan
It was the only thing in the game that bipeds have EVER required a dragon player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Creme
Perhaps when dragons have something that bipeds ever need...
This could be solved by giving dragons the ability to make weapon and armor crystals.... It seemed to me that this is somthing that was started, but never finished, and I'm not sure why. After all, dragons work with crystals all the time in lair shaping, and there seems to be a pointless independant crafter class for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua
Speaking of which, a year and a half after I quit Horizons, I still have my trick-or-treat quest active! It was pretty awesome, actually, I was getting annoyed at not being able to find Zebeginia when the elders started giving me candy! Candy solves everything, and so I forgave them for not telling me that she was floating in the rock directly above my head...Quote:
Originally Posted by Takora Drakan
....I hope the devs don't steal my quest from me now that I've said that D:
Nah, if you have a quest in your book, you're free to keep it or try to complete it. My dragon has the Saris blade quest from Kendra, a Dennison Jadefellow soul frag quest, and the zymosis immunity quests in his quest book, none of which I ever plan on finishing (even if I were able to).
If I recall, they only give me candy once anyway, so I don't suppose it really matters. I know now when I had to quit though. it was on the last day of the fall festival a one and a half years ago!
One of the issues with the zymosis was that you could give it to NPCs. Another was that as you cured one biped another infected would come along and instantly reinfect everyone else standing around that had just been cured. After a while dragons just got tired of it and only a few bothered to stand around curing people.
WoW had the same type of event about a month after we did and it caused the same sort of stink. I don't recall the EQ2 one.
Drev
The biggest complaint I heard is people would go afk on a portal pad, catch the disease, and spread it to anyone else who came through that pad.
Haha, that must have sucked so much!
Also, the devs lied to me... my quest expired when I logged in! D:
It's an expiring quest. Happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by SinOfSUns
Pretty much everything has been said that needs be said on this, but I'm always happy to give my own little twist on things.
Zymosis was a very interesting event, but again, I had it from the Dawn/Order side of things. Since it wasn't clear how the disease was created, Mae and other dragons at the time theorized that it was an mutation of the Biped Disease (then after called Duskael Morbidae), which was 'responsible' for turning dragons into bipeds before the RoP was finished. This terrible disease worked in three stages: the first, the dragon would laze about and it was initially hard to tell something was wrong; the second, the dragon would not move at all and slowly the scales would brown and fall out; and last, a newly formed biped would crack free from the shell the dragon once was, doomed to slowly forget about the life it once led as a dragon.
Mae loves to tell that story to hatchlings. ;p
Thankfully, it is believed that dragons are now immune to that disease... or so it is hoped.
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This terrible disease worked in three stages: the first, the dragon would laze about and it was initially hard to tell something was wrong; the second, the dragon would not move at all and slowly the scales would brown and fall out; and last, a newly formed biped would crack free from the shell the dragon once was, doomed to slowly forget about the life it once led as a dragon.
o.o
...... o.o
>.>
o.O;
This wasn't real was it?
~Galde
of course not, gald!! if it was real, all the dragons would have wanted to catch it!! :p
In terms of Mae RP, it was; Mae's first mate actually died to it. Official lore never supported such a thing due to its bitter origin...
It has mostly shrugged off its somewhat bitter origins, though, which is good. The story was born out of the sadly real need to explain why people who played dragons were fed up with dragons being a total wash out in the early game (hoard leak, not as strong as bipeds, no adult form, no classes, no gold rage) and decided to play bipeds instead. After adult form was completed and gold rage was added though, the numbers stabilized and dragons played bipeds for curiosity, not because dragons were broken.
When I say bitter origins, however, I mean that some dragons who never 'caught' the disease felt somewhat angry and bitter towards the dragons who came back after catching it. Those days are thankfully long behind us, so I feel more comfortable in sharing the disease story now and do so whenever Mae's got a mean streak. ;p
...and managed to even put Aeona on edge with that story... and /THAT'S/ something hard to do to /THAT/ hatchling...
Love the story though... gives me chills everytime... *shudder*
I have a toon with the Saris Blade quest going, at the "Kill xx(number) Saris Zombies level 25 or higher" step. There are > level 25 Saris Zombies on ocassion on Trandalar, WD, ED wraith groups, but they don't count :( .Quote:
Originally Posted by LaughingOtter
FYI anyone who has the old nerf bat quest going from Vrex, this one is completable if you get the quest to the point where it says "Kill an ancient mummy", and then do the Sslanis quest for either Militia Blade or Iron confectioner (forget which). One of those quests sends you to isle of the drowned, and an Ancient mummy spawns in the sugar cane, and upon killing him, he drops the "Broken Ancient Bat" you need to finish the Vrex quest :) Seems its the same mob that used to spawn south of Tazoon in the Desert ruins. Too bad they took those mobs out, that was a fun little area.
Sounds like it would have been a good idea to give a "cured" effect that lasted 15 minutes and prevented Zymosis from transmitting again during that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drevar