Confectioner Skills

I believe that there is a problem with the current set up for confectioner skills which doesn't allow experience gain for "preparation" of items. This is exactly the opposite of how the other craft schools work.

An outfitter gains experience if a flax spool or hide strip is made while an outfitter. In fact, Johald gives a quest to teach you how to distill. If cedar hide tannin is made while an outfitter, outfitter experience is gained.

A blacksmith gains experience if a bronze bar, cedar board or sandstone block is made while a blacksmith.

All of these are examples of "preparation", why should preparation be treated differently for confectioner?

If slicing fruit is considered to be only preparation and not cooking, then the forms for "preparation" should be sold on Gatherer trainers and not Confectioner trainers.

I suggest that the Confectioner experience be fixed to be consistent with the other craft schools.

This is "as designed" unfortunatly. It's the same as the Lairshaper school, and at one point the Scholar school, though I think that was reversed on Blight before it made it live. Only the final skill used actually gives xp.

This is working as designed. The idea being that you gain your experience for the school by making the finished products, not by grinding on any intermediate products. It is similar to Lairshaper in that regards.

You can get XP for doing the intermediate works, but you will need to switch to Gatherer school to receive it.

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Originally Posted by AmonGwareth

This is working as designed. The idea being that you gain your experience for the school by making the finished products, not by grinding on any intermediate products. It is similar to Lairshaper in that regards.

You can get XP for doing the intermediate works, but you will need to switch to Gatherer school to receive it.

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Do the finished products give you vastly increased XP gain like Lairshaping and other Construction Schools to compensate, then?

Lairshaping does not give you any XP from making bars, bricks, orbs, etc... it gives you miniscule XP from making the Flowstones, Maelstones, Meldings, Excoriations, etc.

But your XP *really* comes from placing units in a lair.

The Confectioner school, however, doesn't have this going for it. So does that mean completing a finished product gives you XP gain worthy of the time spent since you can't do anything with the food once it is cooked, unlike construction units?

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Originally Posted by Dhalin

Do the finished products give you vastly increased XP gain like Lairshaping and other Construction Schools to compensate, then?

Lairshaping does not give you any XP from making bars, bricks, orbs, etc... it gives you miniscule XP from making the Flowstones, Maelstones, Meldings, Excoriations, etc.

But your XP *really* comes from placing units in a lair.

The Confectioner school, however, doesn't have this going for it. So does that mean completing a finished product gives you XP gain worthy of the time spent since you can't do anything with the food once it is cooked, unlike construction units?

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The finished products (aka the food) gives you experience equal to what you would have gained by making the intermediate products as well as the finished products. Not exactly like Lairshaper, but close.

Lairshaper gives you 25% XP for making the Lairshaping products and 75% for applying them to a lair chamber.

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Originally Posted by AmonGwareth

The finished products (aka the food) gives you experience equal to what you would have gained by making the intermediate products as well as the finished products. Not exactly like Lairshaper, but close.

Lairshaper gives you 25% XP for making the Lairshaping products and 75% for applying them to a lair chamber.

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Ahh, okay.

That's good then, that the XP is raised a bit to compensate for not getting XP from the earlier steps.

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Originally Posted by Dhalin

Ahh, okay.

That's good then, that the XP is raised a bit to compensate for not getting XP from the earlier steps.

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This isn't a new change. Its been this way since the Confectioner Revamp in 2007. Wasn't sure if you were aware of that.