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Offline World Object Editing
Place holder/teaser for something interesting. More info soon... We're awaiting another client update and patch before these features will work 100% correctly.
Use your client to:
- Any object you see in the world, can be added (copied) anywhere you want, elsewhere in the world.
- New keybindings that allows you to drag, rotate, adjust position of said object; just like the devs.
- New slash commands to do more interesting things, related to world editing.
- Have an interesting concept? You'll be able to output of all your changes into a log file. This log file can be submitted for consideration of being added to the game.
- For those very clever, objects can be added to sector_default.def (in world_cache folder) and shared with other players. I've seen a player working on a "dragon park/resort" ^_^ . Many possibilites, only limited by imagination.
- While offline, teleport to anywhere in the world at will. But note, you will need to have visited the location previously while online (and have a cached world file) or else it will be black and empty.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaOTTGOTaH4
Now, I don't do videos. This is a quicky video, no attempts to retry to make more perfect or less errors. 1st take, 1st post! Microphone isn't very good either.
When the new client is available, I'll post the new keybindings in a post, for you to copy/paste and be able to do these things. Don't attempt to try it until next client patch, as you'll be unsuccessful and aggravated from failure.
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...I got terrain to load finally.
I didn't see command for resizing objects. Nice video though. Moving objects looks much smoother. Looking forward to this.
Ignore pic.
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Originally Posted by
Cegaiel
Place holder/teaser for something interesting. More info soon... We're awaiting another client update and patch before these features will work 100% correctly.
Use your client to:
- Any object you see in the world, can be added (copied) anywhere you want, elsewhere in the world.
- New keybindings that allows you to drag, rotate, adjust position of said object; just like the devs.
- New slash commands to do more interesting things, related to world editing.
- Have an interesting concept? You'll be able to output of all your changes into a log file. This log file can be submitted for consideration of being added to the game.
- For those very clever, objects can be added to sector_default.def (in world_cache folder) and shared with other players. I've seen a player working on a "dragon park/resort" ^_^ . Many possibilites, only limited by imagination.
- While offline, teleport to anywhere in the world at will. But note, you will need to have visited the location previously while online (and have a cached world file) or else it will be black and empty.
from what you listed here, I take it that editing the heightmap is not a possibility then? (if istaria uses a heightmap that is :P)
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Funny... again... when I did use the Offine Mode from Istaria (January 2014) and reported something through a Ticket, the forum thread showing how to use Offline Mode was deleted instantly and I was told, it's not something for players.
Looks like I did it wrong (again) back then *scritches his head*
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It seems the correct client and new command_players.def is on Blight server. If you're not playing on Blight, you could check Troubleshoot button and tick the "Patch to Blight" to use the features.
Here's the keybindings to add to your /prefs/server_Playername/ClientPrefs_Controls.def file. This will let you move the objects around, that you've added.
Example click on an added object. Hold Shift+F1 and move mouse to drag object.
Code:
// Begin World Builder Settings
// Copy with indentation for sanity/cleanliness. Ensure you leave two closing brackets at the end of the file, and place before those two or problems will happen.
{
string name = "DragXY"
string binding = "F1"
string list modifierBindings =
{
"SHIFT"
}
}
{
string name = "DragZ"
string binding = "F2"
string list modifierBindings =
{
"SHIFT"
}
}
{
string name = "RotZ"
string binding = "F3"
string list modifierBindings =
{
"SHIFT"
}
}
{
string name = "planarXY"
string binding = "F4"
string list modifierBindings =
{
"SHIFT"
}
}
{
string name = "rotY"
string binding = "F5"
string list modifierBindings =
{
"SHIFT"
}
}
{
string name = "rotX"
string binding = "F6"
string list modifierBindings =
{
"SHIFT"
}
}
// End World Builder Settings
I forgot to show the command to teleport in video. That's /moveself (or /ms) coordinate. ie /ms 22718 22779 will move you to Dalimond teleporter. Note you must have previously visited the location at least once WHILE YOU WERE ONLINE previously. This will cache the world in that area. When you are offline, you will still see everything around you. If the location is black and doesn't show anything, then this means you haven't visited this area before. You'll need to login the game normally to cache the files. So you won't be able to explore, unexplored areas while offline.
More documentation will follow on some of the new /slash commands.
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Originally Posted by
meepsa
from what you listed here, I take it that editing the heightmap is not a possibility then? (if istaria uses a heightmap that is :P)
I'm not quite sure what you mean by heightmap. It's only designed to allow players add objects into the world and submit those. Any other clever tricks, has to be done in the world_cache.
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Originally Posted by
Cegaiel
I'm not quite sure what you mean by heightmap.
I think Meepsa meant to say terrain, which, if I remember correctly, can only be edited with dev-only software?
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Terrain changes can not be submitted at this time. Internally, the terrain is stored as a height map. If someone were to make some changes that are submitted for a world change, the devs will make terrain changes (as needed). Even something as simple as adding some trees along a road, or a logs here and there, etc. would likely require terrain changes and not a problem to do.
It's very important to remember that if placing objects that might require terrain changes, terrain can only be edited outside of the bounds of plots (and lairs). If a change were made to the terrain on a plot / lair, it would mess up anything placed on that plot when those terrain changes were released to the shards.
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I do wonder what happens, if you try these commands on the live server
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Originally Posted by
Pharaxes
I do wonder what happens, if you try these commands on the live server
Don't worry, you can't do anything on Live Shard (intentionally or by accident). It will ignore anything on the server, unless you're logging in with a dev account (not the same thing as setting developer = true in prefs file). It'll only let you manipulate things you add in offline mode or things added to the sector file. Things that aren't really in the world.
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A bit off topic, but wanted to share a tidbit. .agf files are models. They point to a shader file, which is a .agh file (sometimes it says .tga, but .tga is same thing as .agh). These .agf files are binary files. BUT, if you open a .agf file in notepad, you will see one clear legible line of text, that shows the .agh file it is trying to load (ie):
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Wanted to give this a try, but it seems the commands added in the client arent working? I'm in the game offline, and the settings are showing up in the Commands_Player DEF file, but the commands like /moveself and /loadmodel are giving me the "there is no command or macro" message. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I'd appreciate the help!
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Do you have another Commands_Player file anywhere in resources_override?
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Ahhh I did. Deleted that, but now I'm having an issue logging into offline mode. It's telling me my "username and password are incorrect." I didn't have this problem the first time.
It could be another oversight on my part, perhaps, but I checked all of the filed and changed the parameters I had to several times and am still getting this message.
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When you login with offline mode, it doesn't attempt to connect to server. So an error about wrong username/password suggests that it is trying to connect to server. This suggests your /prefs/ClientPrefs_Launch.def , this setting: bool netEnabled = true . That tells it to connect online mode.
Make sure this is set to false. Make sure you change the setting while offline (before you login). or else when you exit game it will be undone (ie only change this setting and save while game is NOT running).
Also be careful, it sometimes will change it self back to true automatically. In fact it might revert all the time. You might have to set that back to false every login, I'm not sure. But pretty sure yours is set to true.
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Yeah that's what I was doing, I used your video to set everything up but it's not functioning. It's still trying to connect to a server. I've got a few screenshots of my Launch prefs and the message to show you what I mean.
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Those settings look correct. I just tried it and it's working for me. I think I know what's causing the problem for you.
Make sure you are NOT using the Game Launcher to start the game or else it will ignore your settings, undo them and still try to log in. The game launcher is jlauncher.exe in your Istaria game folder. You'll want to launch istaria.exe . You'll probably want to create a new shortcut on your desktop to this file and call it "Istaria - Offline Mode" or whatever you like, as the icon will likely look the same as your "Play Istaria" icon/shortcut.
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Do you run istaria.exe as administrator? I had the same exact problem until I ran the program as admin.
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Yeah I was already using Istaria.exe instead of the launcher. I'll try to run as admin and see what happens.
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Yes running as admin worked! Thanks for the help!
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Ah glad it worked. Happy creating!
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Question. What happens if you crash? Or you need to work on something over multiple days? What then? Is there a way to save it? Printing local objects just throws them into a debug log.
It seems you lose everything on log out. :(
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Any item youll find in sector files will work but the important part is the name of .agf and vector pos/rot/scale. An example:
ENTITY_INSTANCE plant_collide
{
int id = 408573
int ownerID = 4492
int version = 18
string name = "Dalimond Tree"
vector pos = 42399.354, 15254.381, 35.019
vector rot = 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
vector scale = 1.700, 1.700, 2.000
vector localrotation = 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
int primitiveID = 53337
int loadCategory = 2
vector localrotation = 0.0000, 0.0000, 0.0000
float loddistance2 = 100.00
string model = "com_tree_cedar_canopy_large.agf"
string model2 = "com_tree_cedar_canopy_large_lod.agf"
int plotID = 6619136
int plotID = 6619136
}
You would put that in sector_default file under the SECTOR_INFO and } part. Make sure to extend your compass to see coords to put the object in the game. once you have edited sector_default in world_cache folder,you can do /purgesectors and the object will appear where you put the coords. you can then use mouse to move the object where you want it. type /printpos when its selected and it will give you world coords that you can edit in your sector_default file. Hope that helps.
When in offline mode and with developer pref on,youll be able to click on some things you cant normally like trees and rocks,use that and /mp (modelpeek) to find your favourite objects!
One annoying thing about objects dragged with mouse: be sure to be above the object when you drag it. If youre below it it will likely not move or move very far away.
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Just a heads up, devs are working on a new feature so when you do /printLocalObjects it will also add objects to sector_default.def to "save" your work for a future session. Stay tuned for a future release...
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Thanks Ceg and Sal, I appreciate the kind responses. :)
That's a lot of work though, Salwirk. I'm impressed you managed to create the entire dragon park by copy-pasting like that. I seriously lack the time (and a lot of the patience) for that. :D
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Something I've noticed over time while I was checking certain models/textures, it seems that going in/outside of certain buildings (tazoon library is an example) is almost a guaranteed crash for offline mode. Another building type I've noticed this with is the tutorial buildings (ex. "tutorial_dragon_cleric_room"), I will keep my eyes peeled for any other buildings that might cause similiar issues just to people know when to be carefull, but in general, just take care exploring (so far only the older) buildings while in offline mode.
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I noticed in offline mode you crash -everytime- you fall off something,be it a cliff or a tiny doorstep. so if tazoon buildinds are higher than ground and you walk out,youll crash. But also in offline mode you can shrink yourself much more than just 0.2. limit is 0.05 so I shrink my draggy to that to avoid crashing.
I think you can crash everywhere,where dragon would start to fly on fall.
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I did everything right and I tried holding shift and F1 but when I try to move the objects, nothing happens. Did I do something wrong?
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Assuming you didn't accidentally insert the commands in the wrong place and the brackets are messed up, sounds like you forget to set this to true in clientPrefs_Launch.def:
bool editingEnabled = true
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Hello! i tried this editing today and i see in menus "NPC Edit"
I tried it but when i load something or i wnat to create with it it crashes to desktop. What can i do to make it work?
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Uh also when i am in offline mode my draggy is walking even if it is supposed to stand. I mean he is walking but not going anywhere. Sorry i am not so good in english so i don't know what word mark this activity. He is just walking when i stop him and not pressing any key. How to fix this? Thank you for helping.
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So I just found this out today when trying to fix a crash that prevented me from even logging to the game. Is there a way to see a list of any and all the commands able to be used?
