Yeah, and it's not a nice one at that... XD You may be on the right track, though, RuneDragoon.
Hmm... I think that debuff is about to be renamed. The name "Drulkar's Wrath" is destined to be used for bigger and better things.
Much bigger...
Much better...
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Whoo Runedragon, the devs like it. XD
I like 'Drulkar's Wrath' too. Though I can't say I've ever come across it as a debuff.
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Name suggestions:
1. The Fury of the First One
2. Wrath of the Fire God
3. Drulkar's Damnation
And that's all I can think of right now. D:
Oooh, alliteration! Good one Hrae! X33. Drulkar's Damnation
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I like the names Gold Rage and Silver Strike.
I wouldn't like to see those renamed or Gold "Burst" be changed into something differing from those lines.
It does occur to me however that if there is a "Gold Burst" for primal based attacks, that there should also be an equivalent pairing for Silver Strike.
Originally Posted by Random Poster
Right now we have the DRAG school, Dragon Adventure school...
Create another school and focus that completely on Casting.
Give that school the mediocre non hoard using abilities as well and create a casting form for Drain Strike, Silver Strike and Gold Rage (All 3 would not be usable because they are DRAG school exclusive).
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I don't think a Primal based equivalent of Silver Strike is necessary: Prime Bolts are powerful enough.
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Sorry, but that is about the funniest thing I've read in a while.
/sarcasm on
An ability that you can drop every 15 seconds and do up to or over 3000 damage each time - yeah - I'm using it for the debuffs!
/sarcasm off
Consider for a minute Dark Cyclone which is the real epic spell in the game (Shining blades is not very epic IMO). You fight for 20 minutes using your conventional attacks while it is refreshing and then WHAM you drop the hammer.
Gold rage is a dragon's primary attack. You drop the other abilities/spells in whilst you're waiting for the refresh, but really, you're just gold raging and doing incidental damage the rest of the time. [generalising here - but it is true for most dragons that I've seen]
Now Amon has said that he wants Gold Rage to be epic. He has also said that this is not something that is being contemplated without careful consideration.
Consider this - would you really be upset if other abilities were added, and existing abilities were modified or improved so that you could do as much damage without using gold rage and then in addition had the ability to drop your Epic on them?
In other threads people are decrying changes to beetle drops because they think there is not enough hoard. What if you didn't have to use your hoard attacks all the time - that they were Epic attacks waiting in the wings (pun not intended) to dig you out of that tough scrape?
Personally, I'd love to be able to fight properly using current or perhaps new abilities without having to spam my gold rage button every 15 seconds. But it seems any time a change is mentioned everyone yells NERF!!
Valornyx, The dragons using it for a debuff are most likely Caster dragons who are specked for Primal and not T&C so may not do 3000 a swing, a guess as I do not use it that often my self so could be wrong on the damage as a caster specced Dragon.
Right now it is our most Epic attack but from what LA said here and what I have heard else where I do not think it is meant to BE our Epic attack/spell, but i could be wrong on that.
I for one would like to see all our abilities balanced and Gold Rage brought in more with a upper tier attack like Multi attack or whatever upper end attack that bipeds get and a true long recast timer Epic attack/spell be given to dragons. Of note when the Epic Spell/attack comes please keep in mind Caster and Melee and Hybrid Dragons. Do not give us another T&C only or Primal Only based skill, that or give us one based off each so a Dragon can choose between the two specs.
Breathe of Flame Burst is pretty epic, gained as an Ancient and an AOE.
It's timer is not unseemly compared to the damage it does.
Originally Posted by Random Poster
Oi, you don't have to be mean about it. Geez.Sorry, but that is about the funniest thing I've read in a while.As I understand it a lot of dragons use Gold Rage primarily or only for the debuffs (including me because it's near useless as far as damage goes...
~Galde
/sarcasm on
An ability that you can drop every 15 seconds and do up to or over 3000 damage each time - yeah - I'm using it for the debuffs!
/sarcasm off
Last time I checked, it was more like this: my friend is a melee dragon and I'm a caster. His gold rage does 3000+ damage. Mine does about 300-400. And that's the truth.
So, to me, Gold Rage does about as much damage as my galewind. Why bother spending the hoard? I can just flap my wings a bit instead, same effect. So that same friend taught me to use it as a debuff instead.
I go into battle--*gold rage* *prime bolt prime bolt prime bolt galewind prime bolt prime bolt prime bolt*... etc. etc. until the enemy dies.
So overall,
What Deth said.Valornyx, The dragons using it for a debuff are most likely Caster dragons who are specked for Primal and not T&C so may not do 3000 a swing, a guess as I do not use it that often my self so could be wrong on the damage as a caster specced Dragon.
And a full caster's gold rage is piddly. :/ Like I said, I was doing no more than 400 damage while my friend was doing up to the 3000s. That is a direct comparison of a full melee and full caster... might vary depending on your scales, but you get the general gist.
I'm actually confused. Where did this come up from?Personally, I'd love to be able to fight properly using current or perhaps new abilities without having to spam my gold rage button every 15 seconds. But it seems any time a change is mentioned everyone yells NERF!!
I agree. Dragons need to be able to choose; choice is something we have very little of. :/I for one would like to see all our abilities balanced and Gold Rage brought in more with a upper tier attack like Multi attack or whatever upper end attack that bipeds get and a true long recast timer Epic attack/spell be given to dragons. Of note when the Epic Spell/attack comes please keep in mind Caster and Melee and Hybrid Dragons. Do not give us another T&C only or Primal Only based skill, that or give us one based off each so a Dragon can choose between the two specs.
~Galde
Depends what you are fighting...my dragon is 100% primal/power specced including scales. I can gold rage a T5 undead for about 800-1500 dmg if all the attacks hit. Its not a one shot kill, but it saves me 4-6 prime bolts worth of time. Things like wolves and spiders, yeah, I don't do much damage because most of my GRs miss. Their armor is so low, though, that when I do hit I many times one shot them.
To do only 400 damage you would need to miss most of your attacks or be trying to GR a T5 beetle with Harden Shell on, which isn't a great use of hoard anyway.
Drev
So does Zex. But being a caster, he's supposed to cast spells, not use his laws. At least that's how I see it. And hunting with my Lunus is much more efficient anyway.
I don't care if Gold burst/whatever doesn't do the same amount of damage than Gold rage, so I don't have to click on prime bolt and wait until the mob is down ; just give me more primal-based attacks and I'll be a happy dragon.
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