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    I logged in for the first time in awhile today, and was thinking about getting started on leveling my dragon again (with a little help from a friend I know outside the game), but... I am looking at these quests, and I have *no* idea where the heck any of these mobs are. My dragon is 55 Adv. and the last thing I had done, was my GF and I got RoP done, and then we took a break on Istaria for awhile, while she had RL problems and I had other things going on my end as well.

    I am not familiar with any of these mobs these quests are asking for, and I recalled some guide here in the forums, but I can't seem to find it anymore. Gamersinfo.net has absolutely no information whatsoever at all, as to WHERE these mobs can be found, so I'm at a total loss. I hate bugging people constantly in the chat channels, I would much rather like to look the info up instead of having to ask so many questions.

    Is there a guide, or resource, or *something* that gives you a clue as to where these mobs can be found? Surely there's got to be Some way of finding out where all of this stuff is...

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    greetings

    i searched some posts to find a good answer for you

    please take a look at following links:

    http://shadowspire.com/dragons.htm

    http://horizons.gamersinfo.net/guide...p?type=Dragons

    or here a list of all dragon quests

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    Dralk Ability Quests.

    Luadius the Breath Accuracy Trainer (/PrintPos 22507,29060)
    Quests every 10 adventure levels starting at level 10.

    Accurate Breath (Passive) - +10 Attack Skill with Breath Attack.

    Accurate Breath I - Kill 20 Brown Breeder Spiders. - Level 11-15. NE of SSlanis at (20492,22440).
    Accurate Breath II - Kill 20 Grass Beetles. - Level 26-30. SW of Bristugo at (21896,21842).
    Accurate Breath III - Kill 20 Elm or Massive Elm Treants. - Level 31-40. SE of Dalimond at (23296,22290).
    Accurate Breath IV - Kill 50 Nickle or Granite Golems. - Level 41-50. S of Aughundell at (24961,25447) for the Nickle, and Level 46-50. E of Mahagra at (24433,30676) for the Granite
    Accurate Breath V - No quest at this level.
    Accurate Breath VI - No quest at this level.
    Accurate Breath VII - No quest at this level.
    Accurate Breath VIII - No quest at this level.
    Accurate Breath IX - No quest at this level.
    Accurate Breath X - No quest at this level.


    Severant the Drain Strike Trainer (/PrintPos 22519,29062)
    Quests every 10 adventure levels starting at level 10.

    Drain Strike (Active) Recycle: 1:00 - 10% Damage Given to Attacker.



    Drain Strike I
    - Kill 20 Cedar or Massive Cedar Treants. - Level 11-15. SW of Kion at (20179,23644)
    Drain Strike II - Kill 40 Water Golems. - Level 16-20. SE of Kion at (20801,23030)
    Drain Strike III - Kill 20 Large Ruxus.
    Drain Strike IV - Kill 50 Ice Pygmies or Ice Ogres.
    Drain Strike V - Kill 50 Jasper or Aquamarine Golems.
    Drain Strike VI - Kill 20 Obsidian or Obsidian Boulder Golems.
    Drain Strike VII - Kill Cinderfist the XXX.
    Drain Strike VIII - No quest at this level.
    Drain Strike IX - No quest at this level.
    Drain Strike X - No quest at this level.



    Zebegina the Scale Hardener (/PrintPos 22546,29007)
    Quests every 10 adventure levels starting at level 10.
    Hardened Scales (Passive) - +10 Armor Stat.

    Hardened Scales I - Kill Gritus Maximus the Sand Beetle. - Level 11. SE of Kion at (20244,24000) Note: Gritus can spawn in many locations. Basically anywhere a Sand Beetle spawns you have a chance to find him.
    Hardened Scales II - Kill 20 Brighter Spider Hatchlings. - Level 21-25. NW of Chiconis at (24106,22266)
    Hardened Scales III - Kill 40 Winter Wolves.
    Hardened Scales IV - Kill 15 Citrine Golems.
    Hardened Scales V - Kill 25 Ice Beetles.
    Hardened Scales VI - Kill Sickle the Ice Golem.
    Hardened Scales VII - Kill 10 Fire Ogres.
    Hardened Scales VIII - No quest at this level.
    Hardened Scales IX - No quest at this level.
    Hardened Scales X -
    No quest at this level.


    Rykhar the Spiked Scales Trainer (/PrintPos 22528,28896)
    Quests every 10 adventure levels starting at level 10.

    Spiked Scales (Active) Recycle: 2:00 Duration: 1:00 - 1-2 Damage Reflected to Attacker.

    Spiked Scales I - Kill 20 Malachite Golems. - Level 11-15. SE of Kion at (20397,23809)
    Spiked Scales II - Kill 20 Small Ruxus. - Level 21-25. SW of Bristugo at (21601,21353)
    Spiked Scales III - Kill 20 Frost Beetles.
    Spiked Scales IV - Kill 50 Redbacked Spiders.
    Spiked Scales V - Kill 10 Massive Oak Treants.
    Spiked Scales VI - Kill Akron the Oak Treant.
    Spiked Scales VII - Kill 50 Arbotus.
    Spiked Scales VIII - No quest at this level.
    Spiked Scales IX - No quest at this level.
    Spiked Scales X - No quest at this level.





    Periado the Tooth and Claw Master (/PrintPos 22557,28999)
    Quests every 40 adventure levels starting at level 20.

    Tooth and Claw Adept (Passive) - +1 Damage (Delay Adjusted) with Tooth and Claw attacks.


    Tooth and Claw Adept - Kill 10 Slate Golems. - Level 26-30. NW of South March at (23059,20336)
    Tooth and Claw Expert - Kill 40 Ice Golems.
    Tooth and Claw Master - No quest at this level.



    Xerix the Tooth and Claw Trainer (/PrintPos 22501,28920)
    Quests every 10 adventure levels starting at level 10.
    Tooth and Claw Mastery (Passive) - +10 Tooth and Claw Skill.

    Tooth and Claw Mastery I - Kill 20 Sand Ogres. - Level 11-15. SE of Kion at (20748,22983)
    Tooth and Claw Mastery II - Kill 20 Silver Golems. - Level 21-25. E of Chiconis at (25224,22008)
    Tooth and Claw Mastery III - Kill 20 Iron or Iron Boulder Golems.
    Tooth and Claw Mastery IV - Kill 20 Desert Wolves.
    Tooth and Claw Mastery V - Kill Gravier the Granite Golem.
    Tooth and Claw Mastery VI - Kill 30 Pale Hatchlings.
    Tooth and Claw Mastery VII - Kill 20 Cankerous Aegrors.
    Tooth and Claw Mastery VIII - No quest at this level.
    Tooth and Claw Mastery IX - No quest at this level.
    Tooth and Claw Mastery X -
    No quest at this level.


    Caspuras the Essence Harvesting Trainer (/PrintPos 22361,28940)
    Quests every 10 craft levels starting at level 10.
    Essence Harvesting Mastery (Passive) - +10 Essence Harvesting Skill.

    Essence Harvesting Mastery I - Collect 100 Dim Essence.
    Essence Harvesting Mastery II - Collect 100 Tainted Dim Essence.
    Essence Harvesting Mastery III - Collect 100 Pale Essence.
    Essence Harvesting Mastery IV - Collect 100 Tainted Pale Essence.
    Essence Harvesting Mastery V - Collect 100 Glowing Essence.
    Essence Harvesting Mastery VI - Collect 100 Tainted Glowing Essence.
    Essence Harvesting Mastery VII - Collect 100 Bright Essence.
    Essence Harvesting Mastery VIII - Collect 100 Tainted Bright Essence.
    Essence Harvesting Mastery IX - Collect 100 Shining Essence.
    Essence Harvesting Mastery X - Collect 100 Tainted Shining Essence.


    Heraxius the Gemworking Trainer (/PrintPos 22037,28910)
    Quests every 10 craft levels starting at level 10.
    Gemworking Mastery (Passive) - +10 Gemworking Skill.

    Gemworking Mastery I - Craft 70 Malachite.
    Gemworking Mastery II - Craft 140 Garnet.
    Gemworking Mastery III - Craft 70 Amethyst.
    Gemworking Mastery IV - Craft 140 Rose Quartz.
    Gemworking Mastery V - Craft 70 Jasper.
    Gemworking Mastery VI - Craft 140 Aquamarine.
    Gemworking Mastery VII - Craft 70 Jade.
    Gemworking Mastery VIII - Craft 140 Opal.
    Gemworking Mastery IX - Craft 70 Emerald.
    Gemworking Mastery X - Craft 140 Fire Opal.


    Evenitas the Mining Trainer (/PrintPos 22456,29079)
    Quests every 10 craft levels starting at level 10.

    Mining Mastery (Passive) - +10 Mining Skill.

    Mining Mastery I - Collect 100 Copper and Tin Ore.
    Mining Mastery II - Craft 75 Bronze Bars.
    Mining Mastery III - Collect 100 Iron Ore.
    Mining Mastery IV - Craft 75 Silver Bars.
    Mining Mastery V - Collect 100 Nickel Ore.
    Mining Mastery VI - Craft 75 Steel Bars.
    Mining Mastery VII - Collect 100 Cobalt Ore.
    Mining Mastery VIII - Craft 75 Cobalt Bars.
    Mining Mastery IX - Collect 100 Mithril Ore.
    Mining Mastery X - Craft 75 Mithril Bars.


    Miemonus the Scalecraft Trainer (/PrintPos 22564,28902)
    Quests every 10 craft levels starting at level 10.
    Scalecraft Mastery (Passive) - +10 Scalecraft Skill.

    Scalecraft Mastery I - Craft 70 Bronze Bars.
    Scalecraft Mastery II - Craft 10 Sandstone Strength Chest Scales.
    Scalecraft Mastery III - Craft 70 Iron Bars.
    Scalecraft Mastery IV - Craft 10 Slate Strength Chest Scales.
    Scalecraft Mastery V - Craft 70 Steel Bars.
    Scalecraft Mastery VI - Craft 10 Granite Strength Chest Scales.
    Scalecraft Mastery VII - Craft 70 Cobalt Bars.
    Scalecraft Mastery VIII - Craft 10 Obsidian Strength Chest Scales.
    Scalecraft Mastery IX - Craft 70 Mithril Bars.
    Scalecraft Mastery X - Craft 10 Marble Strength Chest Scales.



    Chiconis Ability Quests.

    Memni the Augmentor (24439,22053)
    Quest at level 50.


    Lasting Embers - Kill 10 Crushing Ogres. - Level 55. NE of Aughundell at (26307,27324). Note: You will also need a Frost Ogre Club Splinter. You may obtain this by trading or purchasing. Kill 1 Guardian of Faces. - Level XX. S of Lerena at (27730,20595). Note: You will need to loot a Shard of Faces from the Guardian of Faces. Wait 1 hour. Note: You will need to return with 3 Glowing Essence Orbs.



    Kaliphar the Gift Trainer (/PrintPos 24229,22053)
    Quests every 20 levels starting at level 10.


    Dragons Gift (Active) Recycle: 10:00 Duration: 2:00:00 - +10 Tooth and Claw, Primal, Evasion, Magic Evasion.

    ,Dragon's Gift I - Kill 20 Bronze Golems. - Level 11-15. NW of Sslanis at (19722,22685)
    Dragon's Gift II - Kill 20 Snow Pygmies or Snow Ogres.
    Dragon's Gift III - Kill Frostbite the Snow Beetle.
    Dragon's Gift IV - Kill Isotope the Cobalt Golem.
    Dragon's Gift V - No quest at this level.

    Bentaras the Dragon Reach Trainer (/PrintPos 24374,22056)
    Quests every 10 adventure levels starting at level 10.


    Dragon's Reach (Active) Recycle 2:00 Range 50 - 10-13 Flame Damage.

    Dragon's Reach I - Kill 20 Cedar Treants. - Level 11-15. SW of Kion at (20179,23644)
    Dragon's Reach II - Kill 30 Ferocious Gruoks. - Level 16-20. NE of Sslanis at (19939,21924)
    Dragon's Reach III - Kill 15 Lapis Lazuli Golems.
    Dragon's Reach IV - Kill 25 Winter Grulets.
    Dragon's Reach V - No quest at this level.
    Dragon's Reach VI - No quest at this level.
    Dragon's Reach VII - No quest at this level.
    Dragon's Reach VIII - No quest at this level.
    Dragon's Reach IX - No quest at this level.
    Dragon's Reach X -
    No quest at this level.



    Wintheria the Gold Rage Trainer (/PrintPos 24195,22010)
    Quests every 10 adventure levels starting at level 10.


    Gold Rage (Active) Recycle: 0:45 Hoard Cost: 40 - 2 Extra Attacks, 200% Damage, +10 Attack Skill.

    Gold Rage I - Kill 20 Sand Ogres. - Level 11-15. SE of Kion at (20748,22983)
    Gold Rage II - Kill 20 Small Grass Beetles. - Level 21-25. SW of Bristugo at (21737,21998)
    Gold Rage III - Kill 20 Large or Tremendous Ruxus.
    Gold Rage IV - Kill 50 Snow Beetles.
    Gold Rage V - Kill 50 Gold Golems.
    Gold Rage VI - Kill 50 Flame Pygmies or Flame Ogres.
    Gold Rage VII - Kill Grumblegut the Lava Oastic.
    Gold Rage VIII - No quest at this level.
    Gold Rage IX - No quest at this level.
    Gold Rage X - No quest at this level.


    Lomak the Healer Master (/PrintPos 24305 22083)
    Quests every 40 adventure levels starting at level 20.


    Healing Adept (Passive) - +0-18 to all heals.

    Healing Adept - Kill Greenpiece the Cedar Treant. - Level 20. SW of Kion at (19976,23775)
    Healing Expert - Kill Dramentus the Citrine Golem.
    Healing Master - No quest at this level.


    Frall the Healing Trainer (/PrintPos 24299,22076)
    Quests every 10 adventure levels starting at level 10.

    Primal Instant Heal (Active) Recycle 5:00 - 29-33 Primal Instant Heal.

    Primal Instant Heal I - Kill 100 Garnet or Malachite Golems. - Level 6-15. SE of Kion at (20738,23806) for the Garnet and (20397,23809) for the Malachite. Note: You will need to bring with you 50 uncut garnet and malachite.
    Primal Instant Heal II - Kill 20 Frost Pygmies. - Level 21-25. W of Abandoned Island Portal at (17806,24638)
    Primal Instant Heal III - Kill 20 Brighter Spider Breeders.
    Primal Instant Heal IV - Kill 50 Redbacked Spiders.
    Primal Instant Heal V - Kill 20 Ice Beetles.
    Primal Instant Heal VI - Kill Phryx the Aquamarine Golem.
    Primal Instant Heal VII - Kill 15 Massive Maple Treants.
    Primal Instant Heal VIII - No quest at this level.
    Primal Instant Heal IX - No quest at this level.
    Primal Instant Heal X - No quest at this level.


    Grizelian the Primal Master (/PrintPos 24367 22103)
    Quests every 40 adventure levels starting at level 20.

    Primal Adept (Passive) - +1 Damage (Delay adjusted) with Primal attacks.

    Primal Adept - Kill 20 Leafy Oastics. - Level 26-30. SW of Heart at (21807,19808)
    Primal Expert - Kill 50 Ice Blights.
    Primal Master -
    No quest at this level.



    Lisandia the Primal Trainer (/PrintPos 24374,22108)
    Quests every 10 adventure levels starting at level 10.


    Primal Mastery (Passive) - +10 Primal Skill.

    Primal Mastery I - Kill 20 Angry Gruoks. - Level 11-15. NW of Sslanis at (19768,21824)
    Primal Mastery II - Kill 20 Small Ruxus. - Level 21-25. SW of Bristugo at (21601,21353)
    Primal Mastery III - Kill 20 Amethyst Golems.
    Primal Mastery IV - Kill 50 Winter Grulets or Winter Gruoks.
    Primal Mastery V - Kill 50 Oak or Massive Oak Treants.
    Primal Mastery VI - Kill 10 Lava Oastics.
    Primal Mastery VII - Kill Tashka Lusa the Obsidian Golem.
    Primal Mastery VIII - No quest at this level.
    Primal Mastery IX - No quest at this level.
    Primal Mastery X -
    No quest at this level.


    Zepartus the Essence Shaping Trainer (/PrintPos 24047,21707)
    Quests every 10 craft levels starting at level 10.


    Essence Shaping Mastery (Passive) - +10 Essence Shaping Skill.

    Essence Shaping Mastery I - Craft 50 Dim Essence Orbs.
    Essence Shaping Mastery II - Craft 50 Tainted Dim Essence Orbs.
    Essence Shaping Mastery III - Craft 50 Pale Essence Orbs.
    Essence Shaping Mastery IV - Craft 50 Tainted Pale Essence Orbs.
    Essence Shaping Mastery V - Craft 50 Glowing Essence Orbs.
    Essence Shaping Mastery VI - Craft 50 Tainted Glowing Essence Orbs.
    Essence Shaping Mastery VII - Craft 50 Bright Essence Orbs.
    Essence Shaping Mastery VIII - Craft 50 Tainted Bright Essence Orbs.
    Essence Shaping Mastery IX - Craft 50 Shining Essence Orbs.
    Essence Shaping Mastery X - Craft 50 Tainted Shining Essence Orbs.

    Kreig the Quarring Trainer (/PrintPos 24254,21871)
    Quests every 10 craft levels starting at level 10.


    Quarrying Mastery (Passive) - +10 Quarrying Skill.

    Quarrying Mastery I - Collect 100 Sandstone Slabs.
    Quarrying Mastery II - Craft 75 Sandstone Bricks.
    Quarrying Mastery III - Collect 100 Slate Slabs.
    Quarrying Mastery IV - Craft 75 Slate Bricks.
    Quarrying Mastery V - Collect 100 Granite Slabs.
    Quarrying Mastery VI - Craft 75 Granite Bricks.
    Quarrying Mastery VII - Collect 100 Obsidian Slabs.
    Quarrying Mastery VIII - Craft 75 Obsidian Bricks.
    Quarrying Mastery IX - Collect 100 Marble Slabs.
    Quarrying Mastery X - Craft 75 Marble Bricks.



    Juquenas the Spellcraft Trainer (/PrintPos 24269,22021)
    Quests every 10 craft levels starting at level 10.


    Spellcraft Mastery (Passive) - +10 Spellcraft skill.

    Spellcraft Mastery I - Craft 70 Sandstone Bricks.
    Spellcraft Mastery II - Craft 35 Sadnstone Spell Shards.
    Spellcraft Mastery III - Craft 70 Slate Bricks.
    Spellcraft Mastery IV - Craft 35 Slate Spell Shards.
    Spellcraft Mastery V - Craft 70 Granite Bricks.
    Spellcraft Mastery VI - Craft 35 Granite Spell Shards.
    Spellcraft Mastery VII - Craft 70 Obsidian Bricks.
    Spellcraft Mastery VIII - Craft 35 Obsidian Spell Shards.
    Spellcraft Mastery IX - Craft 70 Marble Bricks.
    Spellcraft Mastery X - Craft 35 Marble Spell Shards.




    Tazoon Ability Quests.

    Jynasix the Capacity Trainer (/PrintPos 23704,25090)
    Quests every 10 craft levels starting at level 10.


    Dimensional Pocket (Passive) - +150 Capacity.

    Dimensional Pocket I - Deliver a load of Spell Shards to Gelarus.
    Dimensional Pocket II - Deliver a load of Dragon Scales to Breath of Fire.
    Dimensional Pocket III - Deliver 200 Iron Bars to Gangaf Taglay.
    Dimensional Pocket IV - Deliver Spells for Jynasix.
    Dimensional Pocket V - Deliver Gears to Lantenal..
    Dimensional Pocket VI - Deliver Supplies to Kesset..
    Dimensional Pocket VII - Deliver Parts for Experimental Cargo Disk..
    Dimensional Pocket VIII - Pick up a load of Mithril Bullion..
    Dimensional Pocket IX - Deliver Supplies to the Guards.
    Dimensional Pocket X - Return with news from the Towers of Magic.
    i hope i could helped you a bit

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    Thanks for posting that, but eh...

    It only tells you where the mobs are for the first 2-3 tiers...

    For example, Drain Strike V says "Kill 50 Jasper or Aquamarine Golems" and I was in-game looking at this, thinking to myself, "Where the heck are Jasper or Aquamarine Golems?"

    And to be honest, I don't feel like spending 10+ hours flying all over the place, hoping I'll luckily stumble across them... I wish we had some sort of... mob guide or something... at least for mobs required by quests... that gives us an Idea of where to find things. I'm not asking for exact Coords, but jeez... some idea of where to go would be nice.

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    Hmm, that guide you posted does have nice info in it Zexoin, but it still doesn't give me so much of a clue as to where those mobs can be found. Thanks anyways, though.

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    Oh, gah, I forgot about that. I used to have that installed, and it lagged my comp badly every time I tried to open the map, but I suppose I could turn all the extras off so I can actually open the map, unless I go searching for a mob.

    Thanks, I think this might be what I was looking for... kinda odd that there are *no* guides on the internet, Anywhere for this though... but okay.

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    I realize that you have looked at gamersinfo, and that Vlisson linked you to a page there, but this page does list locations for the mobs required for particular quests. General locations, albeit, but it should help point you in the right direction. http://horizons.gamersinfo.net/guides/default.php?id=14

    Additionally, I am told that the player mod "Map pack" has mobs and resources marked. I have not yet installed it, but I am told that it is quite good. The link to the mod is in this thread:
    http://community.istaria.com/forum/s...134#post183134

    Further...do feel free to ask in chat. We all have to do that at times. I believe we play the same server, Dhalin, so if I am on please ask me. Chances are good that I won't know (I am known ad aine the lost by some, heh), but I usually know where to look for the info or whom to ask)...and I promise I will try for an answer.

    Edit: Takora beat me to the map pack thingie! Go Takora, you fast typer!

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    yes the dragon board is little confusing and you need a real detective work to find your infos ^^ (btw why 9 sticky posts there *eg*)

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    Oh, gah, I forgot about that. I used to have that installed, and it lagged my comp badly every time I tried to open the map,
    It's a text file, made of names + coords.

    All you need to do is to download it, expand somewhere not in the game, open it in notepad and press F3 to search for the stuff.
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    There is also my printable reference sheets. They have dragon-only adventure quests (a work in progress as I level up), all adventuring ability quests, all dragon crafter ability quests, lairshaping/crystalshaping quests (a work in progress as I level up), and resource locations.
    Exploring is a necessary skill, and its not like death is fatal. At least, not for the gifted.

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    i am trying to do the level 40 drain strike quest but cannot find the ice pygs and ogres i need 50 of to do the quest.......
    please - someone post where i can find them, please!!
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    I think those you need are on the mountain on scorpion island.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velveeta View Post
    i am trying to do the level 40 drain strike quest but cannot find the ice pygs and ogres i need 50 of to do the quest.......
    please - someone post where i can find them, please!!
    As Takora said, Scorpion Island works. I always had a terrible time there as a hatchling (was waiting till 50 to ascend with two of my dragons) so as an alternative there is the top of Abandoned Island. I really enjoyed hunting there for them more, but that is only personal preference. Good hunting.

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    kewl beans, thanx ladies!
    was able to get back in at lunch after having to reboot for updates, so i will be trying to get some done tonight!
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