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    Arrow About Istarian roleplay, for new and returning roleplayers

    Hello, I wanted to post the the details about how most of the Order shard's roleplayers are roleplaying. It isn't about rules that new roleplayers 'must' respect, but just to tell you, new roleplayers, how older roleplayers are roleplaying in this game.

    Here is a summary:
    1) What is roleplay (for me at least )
    2) IC and OoC?
    3) How to separate IC and OoC
    4) Roleplay areas and channels
    5) Last details

    1) The roleplay (RP) means making a fictional / virtual character interact with others, roleplayed by other players, like if several authors were writing a book, each writing their own characters' moves and thoughs.

    This means social interaction, as roleplayers are interacting together (see the OoC details' part) and through their characters (see the IC details' part). A roleplayer can roleplay several characters, as long as there is another player's character interacting with them. It is, indeed, hard to roleplay alone.
    The roleplayer is the one who decides what to do of his/her character(s), but to make the roleplay work, to agree with other roleplayers is very important. It needs, then, discussions between the roleplayers themselves. If an agreement or a compromise can't be found between two or more roleplayers, it is better to drop the subject.

    It is important to keep in mind that, when you roleplay, you do it to enjoy it yourself, of course, but more to let other roleplayers enjoy it, and the same thing applies for them.

    2) The roleplay works with two different views. When the player is roleplaying, he/she writes sentences In Character (IC). The roleplayer, then, acts in the roleplay like he/she thinks his/her character would act, react, how the character would feel,... The player enters, then his/her character's point of view, in the virtual word.

    In order to make the In Character roleplay work properly, communication between the players themselves, in the real world, are very important. This is the OoC (Out of Character) point of view.

    The roleplayers use it to discuss together, to get informations on the characters, to agree about what they will make the characters do, even more if the event affect these characters greatly. It is about ensuring everything the players will do while roleplaying is fine for the other players, and it would prevent some to grow annoyed, things like that.

    3) To avoid confusion on the roleplay channels, or on the main local channel when some are roleplaying on it, it is better to write brackets or other signs to show when ones isn't roleplaying as a character, but talking as a real person. For example, a IC post on a channel would be like:

    *The black dragon bows his large head to greet the saris standing in front of him. Then, he asks: "What is bringing you there, biped?"

    And an OoC post would be like:

    (hello everyone)

    It is very important to keep IC separated of OoC. Keep in mind that what a character does or thinks, doesn't mean the player would act or think the same way in real life (RL). Two characters that are hating each other in IC roleplay, doesn't prevent their respective players to be close friends and have fun in real life. The difficulty can occur when a roleplayer makes his character act and think like he/her (the player) would if he/she was at the characters's place.

    The roleplayers who want to make their characters think, act and react like they, themselves, would do need to be careful with it, and not take any IC thing to themselves, as it isn't directed at them in the real world.
    Some roleplayers choose to always speak In Character, but it is important to remember that nothing of what they could do In Character (even more if the character looks grumpy,...), then, is directed at a real player.

    4) In the game,roleplayers are roleplaying on many channels. The main local channel is normally intended to make the characters think and act in the area in which they are really in the game. For example, if two characters are at New Trismus and roleplaying on the main local channel, they will likely be, in roleplay, be located at this place.

    The main Role-Play channel, like any others roleplay channels, is intended to allow the players to make their characters interact in an IC area, even if they aren't really near each others in the game itself. A player doesn't have, then, to bring his/her character into a specific area to roleplay in the concerned area, when using these roleplay channels.

    Roleplay things can occur at different times, so we can consider, for example, that a character is resting in one roleplay channel's area, after having fought an enemy in another roleplay channel's area, while the player is roleplaying on both roleplay channels at once.

    Outside of the main Role-Play channel, there are several themed roleplay channels, in which the players join likely an area who is determined by the player(s) who created it, and can do, there, roleplay things who are related to the channels' themes. You can also discuss in OoC with other roleplayers, if you want to create new themed roleplay channels yourselves.

    About the main Role-Play channel, area in which its roleplay is located is determined by the players. When I have written these lines, most of the roleplayers consider this area is a valley, surrounded by trees, and with rocks. A lake is also there.

    The roleplay area hasn't always taken place on this valley, but it tends to not change very often, as roleplayers prefer to have a rather stable roleplay area to join. If some players wish to change it, this will require important OoC discussions, in game, and maybe even on this forum, to avoid annoyance and confusion.

    It is important to remember that, in any roleplay chanel, a character needs to be at other character's sight if the player want to allow interaction between them. If two characters are interacting in a valley, they likely won't be able to notice, see, hear nor intearct with a character who is, ICly, at New Trismus. To make characters act, on a single channel, in two different roleplay areas, who are far from each other, it would likely bring confusion.

    Of course, there can be exceptions, like if a character on a valley feels another one is in danger, or has a sort of mental link / discussion, mind reading ability, the character will be able to react to it, even if this character only, or several if they have the same thing, will hear / feel,... this. A distant mental discussion, tough, wouldn't be received by other characters.
    /tell is a good mean to do this in these cases, for example.

    5) Also, a character shouldn't likely be aware of what is happening on the real world. A dragon, for example, wouldn't be able to talk with a friend about the revamps, the bugs,... A character shouldn't be talking like this: "Hey, I am ADV LVL 10, now.", but rather "Hello... I have reached the tenth battle training season."

    Leetspeak isn't really well seen by the larger part of the roleplayers, in the roleplay. Indeed, it would be like imagining, in a fantasy book like Eragon, Saphira saying to Eragon, through the mental link: "H3y th3r3!"

    To conclude, keep in mind that I'm not intending to list any rule, I am just, there, posting how the roleplay is on Istaria from my point of view. This is only my opinion about this, though I am sure some other roleplayers think the same things. I hope I have done it well enough, and that it will help every new or returning roleplayers. Everyone is free to add his own ideas and thoughs there, of course.

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    All excellent points, and well said Lungtien! ^^
    couldn`t have said it better myself XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkwing_Duck View Post
    All excellent points, and well said Lungtien! ^^
    couldn`t have said it better myself XD
    I am sure you could have
    I am also encouraging other roleplayers, like older ones, to express their own ideas and thoughs, as they have more experience in roleplay than me ; new ones, to bring, as well, their fresh thoughs and new ideas ; roleplayers from other roleplay games, sources, ...

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    Thank you for posting this, Temeraire. Well said.

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    I'd like to ask all of the roleplayers, there, if you think this guide is nice enough to be posted on Crimson Dawn site, and sent to the massively site? I'd like to know if you agree with it, or if you want to add more things in it.

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    Massively is probably not the place to send this. They cover news from the world of MMORPGs - not istaria only.


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    After a discussion with some players, I think I should add that in roleplay, it is very important to be mature, even more when the RP goes really dark, violent, ... (these RPs should, indeed, be put on private channels, which would be for mature roleplayers). It would be like a "Dark-Room" RP channel, who'd be reserved for mature and healthy players, like there was on Unity shard. What do you think of it?
    Last edited by LungTien Temeraire; March 7th, 2011 at 12:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LungTien Temeraire View Post
    After a discussion with some players, I think I should add that in roleplay, it is very important to be mature, even more when the RP goes really dark, violent, ... (these RPs should, indeed, be put on private channels, which would be for mature roleplayers). It would be like a "Dark-Room" RP channel, who'd be reserved for mature and healthy players, like there was on Unity shard. What do you think of it?
    There is Grassy Plains (18+) channel that is used for more gory battles or for more darker storylines, if that is what you mean.
    "State your case, but do it well. I do not suffer fools gladly." ~Sereamha Balla-dor

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    I recently posted a journel on my deviantart account about IC, and OOC. feel free to read, and post your thoughts

    http://ReagleFlamespray.deviantart.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sereamha View Post
    There is Grassy Plains (18+) channel that is used for more gory battles or for more darker storylines, if that is what you mean.
    I know this channel , but some players think it would be better to make the title's meaning clearer, like "Darker RP room, for mature and healthy roleplayers".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkwing_Duck View Post
    I recently posted a journel on my deviantart account about IC, and OOC. feel free to read, and post your thoughts

    http://ReagleFlamespray.deviantart.com/
    Nice journal, Darkwing Duck
    Don't hesitate to bring it there, on this thread.

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    After having read some discussions on the forum, I would like to add things that I should have put on the first post last details' part.

    In the roleplay, a roleplayer can't control another player's character (this is powerplaying). What a character will think and act is only the choice of his/her own roleplayer.

    Though, if, for example, a character is using something like a special spell or gives another character a potion, while the other roleplayer doesn't know what this spell or potion is like and what are the effects, the first roleplayer can still express In Character what it should be and do. The second roleplayer's agreement is still required in these cases.

    About godmodding and overpowering (OP): these things aren't well seen by the roleplayers' community. If a roleplayer makes his/her character invincible, like a god, or an overpowered being, other roleplayers will likely not be willing to make their characters interact with this one.

    If a character who has just been created in game, and being like at level 1, the player should better not roleplay this one like if he/she was level 100, unless it is a new character meant to replace one who is (in roleplay) the same, and who had already the said level.

    If a character has special powers, there should be weaknesses as well to balance it, and both part should be explained, reasons and background given, ... if one meets a roleplayer who seems to have an overpowered character, or is godmodding, a quiet discussion should be started to find compromises and alternative ways. The roleplayers' imagination, and the game's world are the only limits for this.

    Don't hesitate to add your thoughs about this, too

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    Quote Originally Posted by LungTien Temeraire View Post
    After having read some discussions on the forum, I would like to add things that I should have put on the first post last details' part.

    In the roleplay, a roleplayer can't control another player's character (this is powerplaying). What a character will think and act is only the choice of his/her own roleplayer.
    + Unless they have permission. (To avoid any possible confusion)

    Quote Originally Posted by LungTien Temeraire View Post
    If a character has special powers, there should be weaknesses as well to balance it, and both part should be explained, reasons and background given, ... if one meets a roleplayer who seems to have an overpowered character, or is godmodding, a quiet discussion should be started to find compromises and alternative ways. The roleplayers' imagination, and the game's world are the only limits for this.
    + Other players are not to use OOC knowledge of a character's weakness to use against them ICly without a reasonable story (approved by the other player) or RP (with the other player) behind how it's learned of ICly.

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    ICly ?? translation please
    Chasing
    Chaos Shard
    Scarlet Dawn


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasing View Post
    ICly ?? translation please
    OOC - Out Of Character
    IC - In Character

    OOCly / ICly are just used to mean the act of being IC or OOC.
    Example: "ICly my character is mean, but OOCly I'm pretty nice."

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    Added onto CD, let me know if you want anything amended.

    http://www.crimson-dawn.org/?pn=UnOf...leplayer_Guide
    Chasing
    Chaos Shard
    Scarlet Dawn


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    It looks perfectly fine for me

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    Looks great chasing! thank you!

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    About Istarian roleplay, for new and returning roleplayers
    (by LungTien Temeraire and Darkwing Duck)

    - What is roleplay
    - IC and OOC?
    - How to separate IC and OOC
    - Roleplay areas and channels
    - Summary

    What is Roleplay?

    To roleplay (RP) means making a fictional / virtual character interact with others, roleplayed by other players, like if several authors were writing a book, each writing their own characters' moves and thoughts.

    This means social interaction, as roleplayers are interacting together (see the OoC details part) and through their characters (see the IC details part). A roleplayer can roleplay several characters, as long as there is another player's character interacting with them. It is, indeed, hard to roleplay alone.

    The roleplayer is the one who decides what to do with his/her character(s), but to allow the roleplay to work, the roleplay style and choices should match the expectations of other roleplayers. It requires, then, discussions between the roleplayers themselves. If an agreement or a compromise can't be found between two or more roleplayers, it is better to drop the subject.

    It is important to keep in mind that, when you roleplay, you do it to enjoy it yourself, of course, but more to let other roleplayers enjoy it, and the same thing applies for them.


    IC and OoC?

    Roleplay works with two different views.

    When the player is roleplaying, he/she writes sentences In Character (IC). The roleplayer, then, acts in the roleplay like he/she thinks his/her character would act, react, and how the character would feel. The player enters his/her character's point of view, into the virtual world.

    In order to make the In Character roleplay work properly, communication between the players themselves, in the real world, is very important. This is the OoC (Out of Character) point of view.

    Players use it to discuss together, to get informations on their characters, to agree about what they will make the characters do, even more if the events affect their characters greatly. It is about ensuring everything the players do while roleplaying is acceptable for the other players, and it helps prevent conflict between roleplaying styles.


    How to separate IC and OoC

    To avoid confusion on the roleplay channels, or on the main local channel when someone might be roleplaying on it, it is better to write brackets or other signs to show when someone isn't roleplaying as a character, but talking as a real person. The * symbol is used to indicate an IC action.

    For example, a IC post on a channel would be like:

    *The black dragon bows his large head to greet the saris standing in front of him. Then, he asks: "What is bringing you there, biped?"

    And an OoC post would be like:

    (hello everyone)

    It is very important to keep IC separated from OoC. Keep in mind that what a character does or thinks, doesn't mean the player would act or think the same way in real life (RL). Two characters that are hating each other in IC roleplay, doesn't prevent their respective players from being close friends and having fun in real life. The difficulty can occur when a roleplayer makes his/her character act and think like he/her (the player) would if he/she was in the characters place.

    The roleplayers who want to make their characters think, act and react like they, themselves, would need to be careful with it, and not take any IC thing personally, as it isn't directed at them in the real world.

    Some roleplayers choose to always speak In Character, but it is important to remember that nothing of what they could do In Character (even more if the character looks grumpy,...), then, is directed at a real player.


    Roleplay areas and channels

    In the game, roleplayers are roleplaying on many channels. The main local channel is normally intended to make the characters think and act in the area in which they are really in in the game. For example, if two characters are in New Trismus and roleplaying on the main local channel, they will likely be, in roleplay, located at this place.

    The main Role-Play channel, like many other roleplay channels, is intended to allow the players to make their characters interact in an IC area, even if they aren't really near each others in the game itself. A player doesn't have to then bring his/her character into a specific area to roleplay, when using these roleplay channels.

    Roleplay events can occur at different times, so we can consider, for example, that a character is resting in one roleplay channel's area, after having fought an enemy in another roleplay channel's area, while the player is roleplaying on both roleplay channels at once.

    Outside of the main Role-Play channel, there are several themed roleplay channels, in which the players join into an area which is determined by the player(s) who created it, and can do there, roleplay things which are related to the channels themes. You can also discuss in OoC with other roleplayers, if you want to create new themed roleplay channels yourselves.

    Generally the main Role-Play channel is considered an area in which is determined by the player group. The majority of the roleplayers consider this area as a valley, surrounded by trees and with rocks. A lake is also located here.

    The roleplay area hasn't always taken place in a valley, but it tends to not change very often, as roleplayers prefer to have a rather stable roleplay area to join. If some players wish to change it, this will require important OoC discussions, in game, and maybe even on the community forum, to avoid annoyance and confusion.

    It is important to remember that, in any roleplay channel, a character needs to be at another characters line of sight if another player wants to allow interaction between them. If two characters are interacting in a valley, they likely won't be able to notice, see, hear nor interact with a character who is, ICly, at New Trismus. To make characters act, on a single channel, in two different roleplay areas, who are far from each other would likely bring confusion.

    Of course, there can be exceptions, for example if a character in a valley feels another one is in danger, or has a sort of mental link / discussion [such as a mind reading ability] then the character will be able to react to it. This may be limited to a single player or a group of players depending on the agreed roleplay. A distant mental discussion however, may not be received by other characters without such IC abilities. Using the /tell command is a good means to achieve this kind of roleplay.

    Please be aware that some role play channels may have more mature conversations than others. For example dark or violent styles of roleplay would tend to take place in a private channel due to the subject content.

    If a player walks into a heated roleplay. the best choice of action is to ask OOCly what's going on, who's involved, and can your character enter the scene? before just joining in, Or, if you're going to start a roleplay, take it up with the players you want involved OOCly, discuss your idea(s) of the characters you're involving, and make sure everyone ok with it. If someone doesn't like something about the roleplay, ask for advice, or get their point of view. They might have an idea to bring the roleplay to life in ways you've never expected.


    Summary

    A character should not be aware of what is happening on the real world. A dragon, for example, wouldn't be able to talk with a friend about the revamps, the bugs,... A character shouldn't be talking like this: "Hey, I am ADV LVL 10, now.", but rather "Hello... I have reached the tenth battle training season."

    Leetspeak isn't really interpreted well by the bulk of the roleplaying community. Indeed, it would be like imagining, in a fantasy book like Eragon, Saphira saying to Eragon, through the mental link: "H3y th3r3!"

    During roleplay, a roleplayer can't control another player's character (this is powerplaying). What a character will think and act is only the choice of his/her own character..

    However, if, for example, a character is using something like a special spell or gives another character a potion, while the other roleplayer doesn't know what this spell or potion is like and what the effects are. Then the first roleplayer can still express In Character what it should be and do. The second roleplayer's agreement is still required in these cases.

    Godmodding and overpowering (OP): These attributes aren't well seen by the roleplaying community. If a roleplayer makes his/her character invincible, like a god, or an overpowered being, other roleplayers will likely not be willing to make their characters interact with this one.

    If a character has just been created in game, and is around level 1, then the player should remember that their character is of a low level and cannot match a high level character (to remain IC).

    If a character has special powers, there should be weaknesses as well to balance it, and both parts should be explained, reasons and background given, If someone meets a roleplayer who appears to have an overpowered character, or is godmodding, then a quiet discussion should be started to find compromises and alternative ways. The roleplayers imagination, and the game's world are the only limits for this.

    To conclude, keep in mind that we are not intending to list any rules, just posting how roleplay in Istaria tends to function. Roleplaying is as limited as a player's imagination, but please remember that the other players in the world must also accept a particular style of roleplay in order to interact.

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    I also posted this guide in Istaria Wikia, but now I can't find it with keywords, only in Recent Changes... does that mean it got deleted?

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