View Poll Results: Should Attunment be as it is now or lessened as before

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  1. #1

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    Before I cancel my accounts in protest of all these attuned on equip things going on I wonder where everyone else stands just a Yes or No.
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    I don't believe in attuned, no trade tags. Everything should be tradeable.

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    I guess I should rephrase this poll , should items be attuned or not, sorry was not clear on the wording or question.
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    Item attunement and the trend to force attuning more and more items is probably the single practice that makes me want to walk away from the game. It has definitely lessened my enjoyment in playing.

    I logged in after one patch and found something like 30+ withered bane techs in one character's vault...all attuned to her. Really, why? It's a first tier tech kit. Sure it's easy enough to get and make, but why make each character have to make his or her own, when 1 can make a bunch for the rest?

    With limited vault stacks and inventory stacks, I can't place these items in storage..what's the point of storage on plots if the items you can stick in them get more and more limited because they're attuned?

    It also decreases trade amongst players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creme View Post
    Item attunement and the trend to force attuning more and more items is probably the single practice that makes me want to walk away from the game. It has definitely lessened my enjoyment in playing.

    I logged in after one patch and found something like 30+ withered bane techs in one character's vault...all attuned to her. Really, why? It's a first tier tech kit. Sure it's easy enough to get and make, but why make each character have to make his or her own, when 1 can make a bunch for the rest?

    With limited vault stacks and inventory stacks, I can't place these items in storage..what's the point of storage on plots if the items you can stick in them get more and more limited because they're attuned?

    It also decreases trade amongst players.
    So much this. I pay for extra storage. A lot of extra storage. Yet each day I find there is one reason or another that I can't use it for anything other than resources which are only good for making more storage.... I play this game because I enjoy building lairs, but when there is no reward for doing so, I find little reason to log in and keep building lairs.

    It is becoming increasingly frustrating when my characters run out of vault space yet I can't do anything about it because so many of the new items are attuned. The reward for taking months out of my life to build lairs is now non existent and I have to either delete items I can never get back or live with an eternally filled inventory and vault.

    I'm greedy. I'm the type of player when faced with a decision to delete a really cool item so I can keep on playing, I'll take the really cool item and just leave. Wait until the game gets off it's crazy attunement nonsense and let us play the game and KEEP our quest rewards. *checks on AOC account* Nope. They still have a stupidly small vault. No money for them.

    It's funny but to this day, I STILL have not used my black hammer or withered bane or any of the new techs. I still have no idea what they do. They don't say and I only get one of them.

    I can't count the number of times I have crafted something for someone, but because they asked for a tech lit, I put the tech kit on it. SURPRISE! Now you can't sell this item or give it away. /trash

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    I voted "no" as in I don't like everything attuned.

    Anything we craft, we should be able to share/sell, IMO. And given level/class requirements, it's not like just anyone can use items we earn from quests, should we decide the item would be better used by someone else.

    What is personally worse for me, is having to choose between keeping an item from a quest or completing the quest. I'm still mad at Brysmendrik for stealing that bag of myloc heads I collected, saying it was payment for attuning to Draak... If I'd remembered that he wanted it, I would not have greeted him with it on me.

    I don't think it is wrong to have a keepsake from running errands and quests. Some might say that Gregory turned traitor because I snitched some of his pipeweed and Darkstaff's pipe... and converted Darkstaff's mug into a deep pink mug for Sonea... and kept a bottle of the fine wine from a delivery errand that nearly killed me... and then there were those autographed socks which were useful in sopping up the leakage from that bag of myloc heads... *sigh* Okies, maybe I helped push him over the edge but he had problems before that - see if you can find Lady Karen and ask her about him.

    For me, the attunement makes storage very problematic. I carry around a bazillion things all the time. I want the flexibility of changing out what is in my inventory with what is in my house. It keeps what I might link more interesting, and what I link is key to how I roleplay. Ultimately, that is why I'm not in favor of having so much be attuned.

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    I take issue with this as well. Item attuning is becoming a default occurrence in mmo's. I don't like it.
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    I voted NO.

    Main reason is same as others have stated. It prevents
    Trade amongst the gifted. (I.E. I have an Ancient Dragon
    with an "Attuned on Loot" Large Intact Kwellen Hide that
    he cannot even sell to a Biped.)

    I've said it before, and apparently it gets ignored, You cannot
    force an Economy. As the player base grows, so too shall
    the economy.

    Marsh, send me a PM when/if you do take action. My 4 subs
    are on the brink also. Maybe a "Mass cancellation wave" will
    get someone's attention?

    Andaras

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    Well I'm not wanting this to be a it is a This or This will happen type thing but as they say BS walks and money talks , Ive brought up attuned item on the forums and its fallen on blind eyes, and no I'm not canceling (yet) my subs, but because I"m mad at recent changes , that is why I asked for others opinions on the attuning on equip and on sale things, the devs have every right to screw up or fix things to their liking, but if it takes the fun away from my fun , then it is a game not fun and games.
    Last edited by MarshDog; March 27th, 2011 at 09:30 PM.

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    Iteam Attunement mite be good for some other games. But it just do's not realy fit in here at Istaria.

    I say NO!
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    Threatened cancellation of multiple subs probably is the best way to get someone's back up, especially when they feel they are in a position of what's best for the game.

    I'd suggest tickets and other methods before organizing a "revolt".

    I'm 80% positive that nothing will be done here, except perhaps maybe revisiting and unattuning some very few items. However, perhaps on a case by case basis we can justify why specific items shouldn't need to be attuned.

    Don't get me wrong, I despise item attunements, even on things where the character needs to complete some quest to get the item him/herself, simply because IMO, every character should have the choice to keep or sell any item he gets. But from what I've seen in the past, mass exoduses seldom do much good in changing game design/intent.
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    Well if I'm right in my math there is 51 years of game play going from forum join date, my math could be really off , but hope that counts for something on how the devs handle this.

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    I've been playing since 2004, so that math is off.

    I only joined the forums last year since it appeared to be
    the only place where the Devs asked/listened to feedback.

    Andaras

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    Attunement when used properly does not have to be a bad thing (like the whole Attune on Equip thing) considering it forces you to think about using something in case you might want to sell it.

    The problem currently with Istaria is that you can build your brains out to finish a plot or lair and many items cannot be placed in it and with so many items becoming attuned it just gets ridiculous how stuffed a persons vault gets especially since at a certain point a player might have plenty of bulk, but due to all those items no more stack because no matter how many updates you buy in the end (last 2 to 3 updates I believe) you will only gain more useless bulk and not what many people really need additional stack.

    I am no programmer, but the whole plot/lair storage thing should be changed. Placement of ALL items should be allowed in player build storage with one condition… Attuned items can only be moved, removed by the player who owns them. This should be one of the higher priorities to change. Maybe an option could be added for the owner of the storage to kick an item out of storage and into the owners vault… In the case that an old player left or someone is particularly messy leaving his junk everywhere except in pouches.

    While normally I can agree with the logic of Attunement as to why it is needed in games, mostly to signify uncommon to very rare useable items, but in Istaria things are becoming a bit over the top so that even items that are common like Creme mentions the Withered Bane tech kit or my example the dragon tech kits. The tech kits themselves are quite common, but either the tech kits are attuned upon crafting (which works totally against creating an economy) or they force items they are used on into attunement forever from the moment they are used. Which forces you to keep them in Inventory or it is going to be another thing to place in your already overflowing vault.

    Attune on crafting is BAD
    Attune on placing any tech kit is WORSE
    Not allowing players to store attuned items in plot/lair is WORST.

    So for the purpose of how attunement is used in this game I say that Attunement is a bad thing.
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    Quest things that break the quest if not in your possession should be Attuned. Everything else, including Portals should not be.
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