At level 58 alchemist I know that I can make dyes and kits for colors other than the original beg and jman forms from the trainer. however, when the new colors were released, I was just exiting the game.

Can anyone please educate me? Are there new jman ground gem/dye/armor kit forms, or are they expert or something else? Also, I did not see anything resembling these elusive forms from my trainer (Sslanis).. do they drop or are located elsewhere?

Still trying to get my feet back under me and catch up on the information... thanks in advance for any suggestions