Newer Dragon Gifts
At the moment we have dragons gift which gives +70 to primal, magic evasion, tooth and claw and evasion.
What about more specialised gift sets for lunus / helian.
Say a gift called "Blood Rage" which gives +100 to tooth and claw, -40 to evasion, +100 to strength and no bonus to primal or evasion.
Just a thought something very low priority but it would give some extra gifts to toy around with for situations. Obviously the figures aren't right for the bonus but just a general idea.
Thoughts?
I think it would be nice to add the last quest for Dragons Gift 5, we've been stuck at the tier 4 version since forever.
i would like an updated version of our current gift, but any variety in our self gifts would be great.
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I like the idea of adding a specialized set of gift that Krakkanoth present, that would help make an even grater different beetween the two factions. Of course they have to offer level I to VI, so is the 100/200 & 50/100 (increase/decrease of 10/20 per level).Originally Posted by Krakkanoth
But personnally I would go ...
"Lunus Blood Rage" which gives +100/200 to tooth and claw, , +50/100 to strength, +70 dexterity, +70 to evasion, -40 to magic evasion, and -50/100 to primal.
"helian Blood Rage" which gives +100/200 to primal,, +50/100 to focus, +70 power,+70 magic evasion, -40 to evasion and -50/100 to tooth and claw.
P.S.: I also would leave the old gift in the game, as many players would prefer a more generalized gift, and would be scared of the minus attribute.
Okay that makes the Lunus a thank and the Helian a mage class, but that would not benefit the legion "social war" & scheme of things.
Last edited by Nalrach; July 9th, 2006 at 02:23 PM.
Nalrach, Healer & Guardian, Member of the "Iron Circle" guild
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Except, of course, that Lunus and Helian are not classes. I strongly dislike this idea. I am neither generalized, nor a mage. I am a Helian.
Lumineux Talar
I agree with you lumi, Brazius is a Helian that is melee based, he already got stuck with a gimp crystal for casters I dont want him stuck with a gift he will never use. Helians are just a viable as Lunus when it comes to melee and vice versa with primal. Helian and Lunus are merely societal differences not fighting styles.
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one problem with that theory neural there is a difference when you hit adult you get those nice little paths of the lunus/helian 20 base to TNC plus fire resist and helian get 20 base to primal spirit and ice resist 20 base primal makes alot bigger affect then 20 base tnc no claw in the game requires over 1000 tnc which is easily achivable by either side but multiple spells can not be teched because it nocks it well over 1000 primal a lunus is sevearly gimped casters they have the throw a ton of extra points 20base prime =60 trainer points which could be 20 base tnc or 15 base strength or power. then theres the fact that a lunus cant even achieve the maximum amount of primal to use all the spells quickening breeze triple teched is 1080 primal the max a lunus can reach is 1070.
Helian and Lunus are not classes, nor should they ever be.
Giving all dragons the options to use one or the other Gifts (if ever implemented) would be acceptable. Also, I see no reason whatsoever for the negative effects of a "Gift". The Tier 5 Dragon's Gift is long overdue in any case.
Seth, that diference is very trivial, and hardly makes Lunus "severly gimped" casters by even a long strech of the imagination...
Lumineux Talar
I didn't mean to seperate the factions on a gift but just provide more gifts that cater to warrior / mage. Severe negatives to one side but big boosts to others. I would expect all new gifts to be available to both factions if created and added.
Blood rage i suspect you'd throw yourself at the enemy with no concern for your safety so evasion / block would be down but damage up... maybe a small element of life drain or chance.. i don't know its just an idea that came to me and rather than listing stats i just wanted to get the general specialised gifts with negatives to other areas out there for others to comment on.
Last edited by Krakkanoth; July 11th, 2006 at 07:26 AM.
It's not part of this topic, but I tend to disagree. The class is dragon, but at one point you choose to ""specialize"" your class. And to me to be stuck with a gift that makes no reference to the way I want to specialize would come to say. Why did you specialized if you don't want to make that specialty more noticable. Lunus are brutal and ruthless combattant on the field, prefering the direct combat versus the magical ways of Helian. I would for one want something that identify me a bit more to Lunus (lunus battle gift) then "dragon gift".
You may permit an hatchling to use either gift until he find his true style, but RoP means that if your Lunus say goodby to the Helian gift.
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Last edited by Nalrach; July 15th, 2006 at 02:20 PM.
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The difference should not be trivial ... if you choose a path, that path should define you. Why would a warrior be as good with primal magic as a mage or why a mage should be has efficient with his claw then a warrior.
two different gift could help making it that the difference be not trivial .. are you LUNUS or HELIAN .. then make a stand and show it.
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If it's not your knowledge of the primal "magic" that define you has Helian, then what does?
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