Dragon self-reliance

[Uther Blade]

All toons in Istaria have gift slots.. most toons have worked a class that will help them fill those slots for the purpose of adventuring and crafting.

Most Dragons will take gifts from bi-peds.. but many a time there has been, that I have been asked or politely told that they do not except gifts from bi-peds.

Dragons rescently have started a new class of crystal shapping.. and with this last patch have received the ability to tinker for themselves. (I thank you )

Would Dragons be able to blend crystal shapping and Alchemy in one and make tiered crystals so that when consumed, could fill gift slots?

So.. Malachite crystal of str = gift of str I

and so on...

The ability to make potions exist as does armor/jewlery/crafting crystals, that can be consumed, but only provide a boost as an enhance...
this can help dragons have gifts of their own production.. but be used by all players. (so classes that don't get Augmentation can use too).

Just a thought.

[venom-dragon7799]

nice idea uther very nice idea

[Seth]

could go further with this use crystal shaping to make crystals that are currently farmed for

dark opal weapon crystals

20 focused dark azulyte
20 opal gems

but its might make them a bit easy to get ahold of but makes sence to me but the gift Idea I must say is great I feel limited as a dragon having to need bipeds to provide gifts when I can only fill 1 myself.

[Zachyattacky]

Wonderful idea

[KD]

nice idea.

[Dravatar]

I'll start by saying I'm not opposed to this, but I'm not sure I favor it either.

Because dragons have flight, I think to correct that they be able to add that ability to a cargo disk. This idea, in my opinion, further isolates the quad and bi pedal races, which I think needs to go in the opposite direction.

You say that bi-peds would be able to use these crystals as well. Do these dragon "potions" detract from the value of the alchemy class?

[Dhalin]

Bipeds do not depend on dragons for anything.

Why should dragons depend on bipeds?

Dragons can't make food. Dragons can't make potions. Dragons can't make non-flying cargo disks. All of the flying cargo disks have 1 stack max. Dragons need a Biped item for their Khutit Form quest. Dragons can never get above Adv. Lv100, which makes it hell for a dragon to participate in a hunting party, that Mob AI bug where they single out the lowest level in the party probably sucks for a dragon, sinec they are Lv100 and everyone else is probably Lv120+.

Dragons have next to nothing to make to actually put on the market that would actually be sought/bought by Bipeds. The lone thing a Dragon can make that a Biped would want, is Spells and Basic Processed Resources.

That's a pretty hefty price to pay for just Flight. *blink*

If you want to bring Dragons and Bipeds closer together, make Bipeds dependant on dragons in some way. Then we can talk. Until then, Dragons need a lot more from Bipeds than Bipeds need from Dragons.

--Dhalin

[AA0]

You level one school to make all that, its no price at all.

[Dhalin]

This isn't a question about whether Dragons can do it all with one school or not.

Heck, I bet some dragons would be full-willing to have several different schools in return for being able to craft more things that would make a dragon more useful in the Economy. Heck, If we split up DCRA into Dragon Spellcrafter and Dragon Scalecrafter alone would cover about all a dragon can really make. I mean, what CAN a dragon make anyways?

1). Processed Resources.
2). Scales and Claws.
3). Spells.
4). Lairshaping Materials.
5). Flying Cargo Disk.

Dragons can "Do it all with one school" because... eh.. there's not much TO make as a dragon. Bipeds have:

1). Processed Resources.
2). Tools.
3). Weapons of several different types.
4). Armor of 3 main different types (Cloth, Leather, Metal)
5). Spells.
6). Potions.
7). Food.
8). Jewelry.
9). Tinkering Items (I'll even include Cargo Disks in this one)

So the reason is fairly obvious why Dragons only have 2 craft schools, becuase the stuff they can make is very VERY limited. As I said above, Resources, Spells, Claws and Scales are all a dragon can actually make. My original point in all of this wasn't even what we can make vs schools.

Its the fact that dragons NEED bipeds, but yet Bipeds could Easily exist in this game without dragons. If you took all of the biped characters out of the game completely, suddenly:

1). No food.
2). No potions.
3). No Khutit Form.
4). No Cargo Disks, except those with 1 stack max (biped cargo disks still have a few uses, the ones that can hold more than 1 stack).

Take dragons out of the game:

1). That one boss you "need" (its been done without, mind you) a dragon to kill.
2). Flying helpers to build your buildings (you can do without, I'm sure many bipeds have built their plots without dragons helping them).

So the only two things Bipeds ever "need" from dragons can be worked around anyways.

--Dhalin

[Vlisson]

You level one school to make all that, its no price at all.

so its no price to be the same like every other lvl 100/100 dragon?

to make a lot of stupid killing tasks to gain important abilities?

i say: chancel the gift slots for dragons or give them the ability to fill them self (via potion/food/consumed crystals)