Nadia Discussion

[AmonGwareth]

From the other thread, I wanted to break this discussion out so we can keep them separate.

My reasoning for removing Nadia: She is a crutch. Removing her allows crafter-adventurer interdependency because adventurers are then needed to go gather tech comps from the mobs. In my opinion leaving her in for so long (and continuing to do so) is a bug in the game. It artificially caps prices for tech comps and it makes the effort of adventurers less valuable than it may actually be.

[Teto Frum]

I agree and after some thought, do favour Nadias removal. But she certainly doesnt cap comp prices...comps sell for about 5%, 10% if your lucky of what Nadia charges. Comp demand may be one easy way to try and jumpstart some sort of economy.

[Sigi]

"It artificially caps prices for tech comps and it makes the effort of adventurers less valuable than it may actually be."

I did not visit her often and I did not visit her lately but if there was no change, I find Nadia obscenely expensive, so expensive that I rather go without than buy it from Nadia. So I wonder about the cap. I wouldn't pay an adventurer more than I'm already -not- paying Nadia.

Teto beat me

[ScaleIron]

(Moved what I had posted on the last thread to this one...)

I buy from Nadia if I'm having horrid resource drops, if players don't have the resources I need, or if I can't tackle a specific mob effectively.

It makes me cringe, spending over 100 silver on four resources. (But then I don't spend money often, so at least it doesn't make me foam at the mouth.)

However, I would not miss her. In fact, I might just go and do a little dance in the area she hangs around in if she were taken out.. It would just take me longer to make some teched scales, sure, at least until I'm done with adventure. I also imagine that taking her out would give adventurers the option of going component hunting to make some coin. I would certainly do it. Might get something resembling an economy going a bit better...

So, I think I am in favor.

[Teto Frum]

As i said on other thread, after some thought ive decided I'm for Nadis removal. Though dont think she caps prices, comps sell for a fraction of what she charges, and will whether Nadias arround or not. But as a possible way to create some sort of economy again i favour move.

[Sigi]

See other thread

Or merge?

[MarshDog]

Well, I'm wondering if your looking at this from the prospective of Live shard or the Blight shard or all 3 ?
In our prior discussions you know where we on Blight stand on the entire vielo , I cant speak for live as I dont go to live , Amon.

[AmonGwareth]

Live shards. Blight shard is a different beast entirely

[Zexoin]

I have mixed feelings about that.
Maybe if we had more population on the shard, Nadia would be useless, but there aren't many people trading for comps nowaday, and hunting large amounts of some (vexator fringes, zombie werewolf skulls anyone ?) can be a real pain.
So, I dunno.

[MarshDog]

Live shards. Blight shard is a different beast entirely

Yep we are a Dragon-of-a-different color lol.

[Tamaracaran]

I think Nadia should be removed, but only after componet drop rates are reworked and the missing tech parts ither swiched to somthing that is in game or made avialable on new or reworked older mobs.

I could have gone to to her to get the need parts for my armor scales, costing me well over 300 gold. Insted I spent over a year hunting and pestering other hunters for all the needed parts. This resulted in me logging in less and less over that time.

I am shure i am not the only one who has dreaded going after there next tier of parts for new armor/scales/spells.
A set of Tier V Triple Teched scales or armor takes 84 tech componets, many of them are found on mobs that only roam the satyr isle in numbers less than i can count on one hand. (Ever tryed to get 24 Veteran Abomination chest skulls?)

[Zexoin]

What Tam said !!

[Ebonfyre]

Im sorry but I would have to say no. First off drop rates on several tech items is down right ridiculous. Secondly, as was stated before i think the player population is far too low. I think Nadia is fine and doesnt really need to be removed to stimulate the ingame economy. Money for the most part is pointless in the Horizons economy.

[Trust]

I'd have to vote no because:
1. drop rates suck
2. mob populations are low and generally confined to 1-2 areas
3. player population is low
4. interdependence is a myth; my opinion is that most people can make their own gear and gather their own comps.
5. crafters dont buy comps to make gear (at least on Chaos). If I wanted to have armor made, I gather the techs, not the crafter. It is assumed that the player who wants the gear provides the tech resources.

[Takora Drakan]

Thing is also, Nadia sells stuff that is required for techs but doesn't drop. Like the energy,flame and ice bone splinters, they are used for the dragon event techs and banners. Also the spiderling silk that is used for spirit webbing sells only nadia as far as I know. There is need to put them back dropping or put somewhere a merchant that sells those comps please.

If you want to remove here, go ahead, I rarely buyed something from her, mostly only the splinters because they don't drop.

[Sigi]

Nadia hanging around would be fine for me. She doesn't do any harm and perhaps she is useful as a last resort .

Though ...
If she has to go, I presume there will be a closing down sale with substantial discounts?
*starts making a shopping list

[Zexoin]

thing is also, nadia sells stuff that is required for techs but doesn't drop. Like the energy,flame and ice bone splinters, they are used for the dragon event techs and banners. Also the spiderling silk that is used for spirit webbing sells only nadia as far as i know. There is need to put them back dropping or put somewhere a merchant that sells those comps please.

If you want to remove here, go ahead, i rarely buyed something from her, mostly only the splinters because they don't drop.

other than the bone splinters and spiderling silk, what tech comps are needed that do not drop as loot? And if splinters and silk were made available, is there anything else that would stop the removal of nadia?

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[AmonGwareth]

Thing is also, Nadia sells stuff that is required for techs but doesn't drop. Like the energy,flame and ice bone splinters, they are used for the dragon event techs and banners. Also the spiderling silk that is used for spirit webbing sells only nadia as far as I know. There is need to put them back dropping or put somewhere a merchant that sells those comps please.

If you want to remove here, go ahead, I rarely buyed something from her, mostly only the splinters because they don't drop.

Um... read my in the other thread please. *bonks you on the head*

[Chasing]

Personally i agree that Nadia should be removed, however as already mentioned some tech comp drop rates needed to be improved.

Example
Imbued Armour Splinters - a t3 drop but harder to obtain than t5 comps

As for drop rates of T5 tech comps, they are/should be relatively difficult to obtain being T5.

(Don't flame) we are too used to using Nadia for convenience and because there is hardly anything else (except building) to sink money into.

[Takora Drakan]

Um... read my in the other thread please. *bonks you on the head*

Sorry, saw the other thread too late.