timeline/dragon question

[Kotu]

heh the timeline doesnt seem very accurate when you compare it to the lore on the races, for instance - dragons were around before the time of the gods, but werent the dryads? since they spawned right after the creation of the world spawning from the left over essence of life and nature? i also noticed dragons have a bad tendancy to over use and abuse the "naka" word thinking it means 2 legged creatures when it just means unscaled "sslik" also have scales. Also a dragon tried saying they were unique "refering to being alien" saying there from another world "literealy" when there only alien by physical looks in comparasin to the other elite races, when it comes down to italot of the dragons have a bad missconcieption of what they really are "those that think there better then the unscaled" im dryad lvl 13 druid and i'd b happy to show off any lvl 13 dragon in the arena all day any day and we'll see wats better scales "Sinnaturaleza's - natureless" or 1 of the races that r in full complete ability to use the powers of istaria to its fullest "not quite fullest since im just a pure lvl 13 druid, took me a while to find out how to b one since im actually fairly new to the land"

[Tcei]

Naka is sort of a slang word for dragons to reference any non-dragon (aka bi-ped) race.

As for the "alien" dragons, Im assuming you mean other players saying that, this is the lore they came up with, as there is no actual lore to support dragon being from a non-istarian place (I.E. Krynn, Earth, Pern, ect). Many characters will just assume the "alien" dragon is just insane, tho given how common this type of character is, it gets hard to do after awhile.

From my understanding in the upper teirs, a single classed bi-ped is much weaker than a dragon of equal power, how-ever a multi-classed uber-ped can steam roll an equal leveled dragon with ease. However this is game mechanics, by lore dragons are (or at least were) a superior race.

At your level you have the advantage over a hatchling given that you have acess to a wider range of spells/and abilities compared to a dragon, and have full acsess to every armor slot, where as a dragon only has two armor slots available by that level.

[Deth]

Technically the first dragons are alien, but are from the plane of fire not any where else. I have seen a lot of new RP of people playing dragons from other realms that is not cannon.

[Cruciare2750]

From my understanding in the upper teirs, a single classed bi-ped is much weaker than a dragon of equal power, how-ever a multi-classed uber-ped can steam roll an equal leveled dragon with ease. However this is game mechanics, by lore dragons are (or at least were) a superior race.

At your level you have the advantage over a hatchling given that you have acess to a wider range of spells/and abilities compared to a dragon, and have full acsess to every armor slot, where as a dragon only has two armor slots available by that level.

Is this to say that its better to play anything other than a dragon? Or is the Dragon mainly just there for fluff?

I am not saying Dragons should pwn all (well, yeah I am!) since this is a MMO and balance must be considered, but they should at least be able to hold their own.

Is there a senario where a Dragon could defeat that uber ped? Or is it just not possible?

[Galdethriel]

Is this to say that its better to play anything other than a dragon? Or is the Dragon mainly just there for fluff?

I am not saying Dragons should pwn all (well, yeah I am!) since this is a MMO and balance must be considered, but they should at least be able to hold their own.

Is there a senario where a Dragon could defeat that uber ped? Or is it just not possible?

I'm no expert on it, but I think dragons originally had very similar/the same capabilities as bipeds did, but the classes were removed from them in order to make playing a dragon a different experience from playing a biped. :/

It's a good reason, but dragons need to be given more possibilities as they're maxing out. I dunno whether or not the devs have any plans of action on their agenda, but... dragons make a stirdy jack-of-all-trades class. I don't know how a maxed dragon could defeat an uberped, but I'm sure that it would be possible. If you had the right everything specific to the biped's current class and attacks... maybe... :/ I guess it also depends on exactly how many classes the biped has maxed, and a whole host of other things, including the experience of the players...

Oh, I'm not sure. >.< Like I said, I'm no expert. :/

~Galde

[Cruciare2750]

I'm no expert on it, but I think dragons originally had very similar/the same capabilities as bipeds did, but the classes were removed from them in order to make playing a dragon a different experience from playing a biped. :/

It's a good reason, but dragons need to be given more possibilities as they're maxing out. I dunno whether or not the devs have any plans of action on their agenda, but... dragons make a stirdy jack-of-all-trades class. I don't know how a maxed dragon could defeat an uberped, but I'm sure that it would be possible. If you had the right everything specific to the biped's current class and attacks... maybe... :/ I guess it also depends on exactly how many classes the biped has maxed, and a whole host of other things, including the experience of the players...

Oh, I'm not sure. >.< Like I said, I'm no expert. :/

~Galde

Thank you for your reply and I guess Dragons are the jack of all trades master of none deal from what you posted. TY for the comparison and info

[Hoberton]

Is there a senario where a Dragon could defeat that uber ped? Or is it just not possible?

Moot point since this is not a PvP game.

Yes, I do know there is an arena.

[Galdethriel]

I think he/she is just trying to ask for a general power-to-power comparison Hoberton. :P

[Cruciare2750]

Moot point since this is not a PvP game.

Yes, I do know there is an arena.

Moot point to whom? And who said anything about pvp? Mine was just a general comparison question is all.

[Ebonfyre]

Dragons only seem to suffer from the fact that they max out early with the lack of other schools. Bipeds have no limits except time. Dragons are equal to a well rounded 5x100 biped. But as a biped continues to lvl up classes they continue to gain power where as dragons are currently capped. Dragons in beta could use some of the biped classes, but that was ONLY for testing the biped classes.

Many of us dragon players wish we had someway to max our stats out, but the developers are limited as to what they can spend their time on. But they are aware and have read many ideas of different things we would like.

As for fighting one vs another. It is possible for a dragon to tackle even the toughest bipeds. I think it was a dragon named Skald, who use to take on lvl 180 and up bipeds and hold his own. If you want to duel a heavily lvled biped (I do because they are more of a challenge then most WA monsters), I would recommend having several scale sets of different wards and resists on them.

[AmonGwareth]

heh the timeline doesnt seem very accurate when you compare it to the lore on the races, for instance - dragons were around before the time of the gods, but werent the dryads? since they spawned right after the creation of the world spawning from the left over essence of life and nature? i also noticed dragons have a bad tendancy to over use and abuse the "naka" word thinking it means 2 legged creatures when it just means unscaled "sslik" also have scales. Also a dragon tried saying they were unique "refering to being alien" saying there from another world "literealy" when there only alien by physical looks in comparasin to the other elite races, when it comes down to italot of the dragons have a bad missconcieption of what they really are "those that think there better then the unscaled" im dryad lvl 13 druid and i'd b happy to show off any lvl 13 dragon in the arena all day any day and we'll see wats better scales "Sinnaturaleza's - natureless" or 1 of the races that r in full complete ability to use the powers of istaria to its fullest "not quite fullest since im just a pure lvl 13 druid, took me a while to find out how to b one since im actually fairly new to the land"

First thing to realize is that much of the early timeline is myth. The timeline is created by Istarian scholars, which means its information is obtained from Istarian people. Hence, the Dragon claiming that they came from the Realm of Fire, the Dryad claiming they had contact with the Gods on a regular basis, and so on. IT is their belief of their origin and may not be actual fact.

If you are interested in Dryad lore, then you will learn much more about the Dryad with the coming of the free content expansion we're working on.

[Firebrand]

If you are interested in Dryad lore, then you will learn much more about the Dryad with the coming of the free content expansion we're working on.

Uh... expansion? Really?
Maybe The Settlements thing (or part of it) has not been fully forgotten in the trash can?

[Takora Drakan]

I think amon is referring to the labyrinth and the stuff that comes with it.

[Kotu]

heh i think it would b a great expansio if there was a actual school building where, lore, myth, and even istaria history could b taught "ie: present to the forums a peice of lore or sumthing, get elected by the players, become a teacher with a tittle, and have the option to world announce a class to b taken place that can b open up for discussion and debate and share ideas under the teacher of coarse, also have like a set amount of time that a class can b held so they cnt b done back to back, and after each class a token or sumthing simple awarded etc" it would bring even more ingame depth in my views, also bout the slang naka, and the timeline thx for clearing that up :P

[Firebrand]

I think amon is referring to the labyrinth and the stuff that comes with it.

Yeah... you may be right. *sighs*

[Galdethriel]

Don't worry Firebrand, I was hoping deep down it was some settlements stuff too. ;_;

But hey, we get a big evil dungeon and new loot. All's good

~Galde

[AmonGwareth]

Yeah... you may be right. *sighs*

Why the sigh? You don't even know what all is contained in it. Heck, you really don't even know what is in the labyrinth or related to it.

[A'Sasha]

First thing to realize is that much of the early timeline is myth. The timeline is created by Istarian scholars, which means its information is obtained from Istarian people. Hence, the Dragon claiming that they came from the Realm of Fire, the Dryad claiming they had contact with the Gods on a regular basis, and so on. IT is their belief of their origin and may not be actual fact.

If you are interested in Dryad lore, then you will learn much more about the Dryad with the coming of the free content expansion we're working on.

So, in all reality there is no actual canon set in stone as to the origins of dragons?

Just trying to understand how much room there is for creativity in regards to back stories

[Takora Drakan]

The dragons came from the realm of fire, they have the spirit of fire in them. There isn't much to mess about it, since many npcs say the same. If you claim your dragon comes from world xyz it is just not canon. You just can't come up with something different when those facts are known for centuries in istairan history.

[A'Sasha]

The dragons came from the realm of fire, they have the spirit of fire in them. There isn't much to mess about it, since many npcs say the same. If you claim your dragon comes from world xyz it is just not canon. You just can't come up with something different when those facts are known for centuries in istairan history.

I understand Takora and I agree with you wholeheartedly. But at the same, Amon's post is claiming differently unless I am misreading/misinterpreting it which is also a pretty good possibility.

Although, as someone once mentioned to me, it's all fake anyways so who cares what you come up with. It's RP and RP is meant to be fun. /shrugs