Gamer's Info

[Magnir]

Awesome, Oak.

GamersInfo always gave me a headache anyway because the information isn't cataloged correctly. It was a pain and a half to slog through to create (much needed) lists that are clear and concise.

I would love to see an interactive database at some point.

I'm also happy to see the work that StalePopcorn is putting into the Wiki.

[StalePopcorn]

I certainly can't take all of the credit - there are a number of Wiki editors in the background updating and correcting content along the way. I'm just the guy that wiki-spams every chance he gets

Hope this isn't derailing the thread, but... can people tell me what they are/were using Horizons GI for? I know there are the game guides, atlas, spells, forms etc, but were there specific purposes that Horizons GI was most used for? Between Chasing's site, the forums, the Wiki, and the Crafting Calculator, I would expect the vast majority of the information is covered. I'm interested to see if, between the "knowledge" out there, we can replicate and surpass Horizons GI. From memory GI hasn't been updated since 2007, would be good to either (a) get it updated, or more likely (b) replace it with other, more current, sources of information.

[awdz]

i primarily used it for info on classes - skills req, skills gained, all the new abilities gained, and *key* where to find trainers

[C`gan]

My main look at GI.n involved skill interactions between the classes. For instance, fitter, miner, blacksmith all using the smelting skill, which one was best to max it out?

[Velea]

Note that many of the guides posted on GI.net were written by me while I was working for Ophelea back at the end of the Tulga days. If it is listed without a specific other author, then it's one I wrote for the GI.net site. (Since I was an employee there, specific authorship didn't have to be credited. )

With GI.net down, I'll repost those guides on the Istaria site as well as getting the ones Oakleif wrote up there. I worked hard on them, so it's good that they can now be posted right on the Istaria site itself. Silver lining to the cloud at all that.

[velveeta]

i used gi primarily for skewl info - where trainers are, what spells to use, what some critters drop........
also mined it for my draggy cave eggie names......

[Magnir]

Basically I used it for the hard information that was provided for schools, formulas, techniques and so on.

The guides there were also quite helpful at times.

One thing that I've never seen on a resource site is a cross-reference chart of materials X tiers.

I would LOVE one of those.

[Litarath]

Basically I used it for the hard information that was provided for schools, formulas, techniques and so on.

The guides there were also quite helpful at times.

One thing that I've never seen on a resource site is a cross-reference chart of materials X tiers.

I would LOVE one of those.

That's what I mostly used it for, and the guide for the Trophies upon it too, that has been very helpful.

I also used it to get details about skills and abilities, i.e. what stats most affect things like smelting and evasion.

[StalePopcorn]

i primarily used it for info on classes - skills req, skills gained, all the new abilities gained, and *key* where to find trainers

Coolies awdz, this info is available on each individual schools page. In particular the Trainers as well (such as Healer and Cleric), because that's exactly what I always used GI for School-specific quests are listed as well, but that isn't complete AFAIK

My main look at GI.n involved skill interactions between the classes. For instance, fitter, miner, blacksmith all using the smelting skill, which one was best to max it out?

The individual skill pages, such as Smelting, should have this info, including what stat Dex/Str/Foc/Pow gives the best increase. LMK if we've missed any!

With GI.net down, I'll repost those guides on the Istaria site as well as getting the ones Oakleif wrote up there. I worked hard on them, so it's good that they can now be posted right on the Istaria site itself. Silver lining to the cloud at all that.

V - you are a legend! These guides helped me in my "early years" and still are great resources. Would be good to point newbies to them as well. Cheers to Oak too!

i used gi primarily for skewl info - where trainers are, what spells to use, what some critters drop........

Still working on spells unfortunately OMG there are a lot lol we will be adding lists of spells by skill (Life, Aug, etc) as well as cross-referencing to individual schools (CLR, SPR, etc). Also linking to formulas too. Ahhhh if only I didn't waste my time with all this sleep!

One thing that I've never seen on a resource site is a cross-reference chart of materials X tiers.

I would LOVE one of those.

I'm certain I've seen something like this Mags, I'll need to check... maybe someone else can remember?

and the guide for the Trophies upon it too

The Trophy Hunter page should be complete and up-to-date. I hope Formatting isn't finalised yet I'm still playing with that...

Note that Chasing's site also has a lot of this information, possibly more summarised/formatted than the Wiki, particularly since a largo portion of the old GI site has been copied over there. The spells in particular thank goodness! I'll leave Chasing to provide pointers to his info, I have a hard enough time keeping track of the Wiki-side lol

[Kraegan]

While down for good would be the maximum security case, I somehow doubt that they'd bother upgrading something destined to be discarded.

So true. My virus scanner went crazy on that site lol.

[Chasing]

Note that Chasing's site also has a lot of this information, possibly more summarised/formatted than the Wiki, particularly since a largo portion of the old GI site has been copied over there. The spells in particular thank goodness! I'll leave Chasing to provide pointers to his info, I have a hard enough time keeping track of the Wiki-side lol

Schools masterable abilities and spell lists
http://www.crimson-dawn.org/index.php?p=55

Statistic bonuses to skills
http://www.crimson-dawn.org/index.php?p=49

Craft school skill increases per lvl
http://www.crimson-dawn.org/download...oolsmatrix.xls

I have a copy of the list of NPC's trainers etc from gamersinfo, but it is over 3 years out of date and given that NPC's have been removed or shifted about I dont think its worth posting the old list.

A list of resources by tier I havent seen except on the community site, there was a thread started about it. A could look at building a list of them at some point but I too busy with other bits at the moment.

[walkerglassmire]

... Hope this isn't derailing the thread, but... can people tell me what they are/were using Horizons GI for? ...

Primarily, I was using the GI for NPC searches, and critter location/drop searches. Course, both of those were becoming less and less useful as NPCs got bored and wandered off, and the loot and spawns have been shuffled and reshuffled since the last time GI received a data dump ('06 as I recall). But, a name searchable NPC list with Locs and "profession" would be rather useful. There's been many a time where the quest log just has a name, but no info at all on where the person is. Was in the dialog from the quest, but 3 weeks later, one tends to forget things like that. Or to be able to plug in: Quartermaster and get where they all are.

[awdz]

i hope this is helpful; i threw together a table in Word but it does not copy/past right, so here's list format (parentheses denote bonuses):

Resource Tier I
metal/ ores required - bronze/ copper & tin
jewelry metal - bronze
stone - sandstone
essence - dim
wood - cedar
fiber - flax
gems - malachite, garnet, turquoise
fungus - istarian
clay - adobe
azulyte (dark) - viridian
fish (squid) - minnow (shrimp)

Resource Tier II
metal/ ores required - iron/ iron
jewelry metal - silver
stone - slate
essence - pale
wood - elm
fiber - kenaf
gems - amethyst, rose quartz, lapis lazuli
fungus - browngill
clay - earthenware
azulyte (dark) - cerulean
fish (squid) - bluegill (clam)

Resource Tier III
metal/ ores required - steel/ nickel & iron
jewelry metal - gold
stone - granite
essence - glowing
wood - oak
fiber - cotton
gems - jasper, citrine, aquamarine
fungus - rough cap
clay - terra cotta
azulyte (dark) - amber
fish (squid) - bass (eels)

Resource Tier IV
metal/ ores required - cobalt/ cobalt & nickel
jewelry metal - platinum
stone - obsidian
essence - bright
wood - maple
fiber - silk
gems - opal, topaz, jade
fungus - stonespore
clay - stoneware
azulyte (dark) - titian
fish (squid) - trout (lobster)

Resource Tier V
metal/ ores required - mithril/ mithril & platinum
jewelry metal - mithril
stone - marble
essence - shining
wood - yew
fiber - ironsilk
gems - fire opal, peridot, emerald
fungus - bloodcap (truffles?)
clay - geostone
azulyte (dark) - crimson
fish (squid) - mackerel (crab, red snapper)

Resource Tier VI
metal/ ores required - adamantium/ adamantium & mithril
jewelry metal - adamantium
stone - travertine
essence - radiant
wood - thornwood
fiber - steelsilk
gems - ruby, sapphire, diamond
fungus - shadowstem (buttercup)
clay - porcelain
azulyte (dark) - violet
fish (squid) - halibut (urchin, sword fish)

[Chasing]

Okay i've added all the dragon building structures now including the newish transmute chamber.

Link to construction items
http://www.crimson-dawn.org/index.php?p=139

[StalePopcorn]

Primarily, I was using the GI for NPC searches, and critter location/drop searches. Course, both of those were becoming less and less useful as NPCs got bored and wandered off, and the loot and spawns have been shuffled and reshuffled since the last time GI received a data dump ('06 as I recall). But, a name searchable NPC list with Locs and "profession" would be rather useful. There's been many a time where the quest log just has a name, but no info at all on where the person is. Was in the dialog from the quest, but 3 weeks later, one tends to forget things like that. Or to be able to plug in: Quartermaster and get where they all are.

The vast majority (maybe 99%?) of NPCs have been added to the Wiki. Most have photos as well, though some are a bit shy and haven't been done yet Use the search box to enter the first name of the NPC, that should bring up the results. I only just finished Kirasanct last night (as far as pretty piccys go) and there is still a lot left, but locations (x/y), closest port, and names should be correct.

Ditto with quests as well, entering part of the quest name in the search should provide the quest info. Quartermasters are up there too.

[StalePopcorn]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]i hope this is helpful; i threw together a table in Word but it does not copy/past right, so here's list format (parentheses denote bonuses):

*snip*

Nice awdz! There is also another list on Pilgrim's site which should combine really well with yours (particularly for the Confectioner's out there).

[StalePopcorn]

Nice awdz! There is also another list on Pilgrim's site which should combine really well with yours (particularly for the Confectioner's out there).

...which is actually Weston LaDread's site - if you are out there somewhere, sry Weston

[Magnir]

Thanks for the compilation, Awdz, and fantastic link for crafting resources, Stale.

Really something that I think should be part of standard game guides. The only thing really missing at this point are resource locations and recipes for how to make those base materials (especially when you're talking about the metals).

[StalePopcorn]

Thanks for the compilation, Awdz, and fantastic link for crafting resources, Stale.

Really something that I think should be part of standard game guides. The only thing really missing at this point are resource locations and recipes for how to make those base materials (especially when you're talking about the metals).

Most of the individual resource types (like Wood, Metal, Stone, etc) can be accessed via the Resources page on the wiki. These pages have general areas of where you can find the resources (i.e. North of Sslanis, etc), because the map-pack is still the best resource for exact locations.

The Horizons Crafting Calculator (HCC) is the bees-knees for knowing what you need in order to make stuff (OT - which reminds me, must buy a second monitor so I can have the HCC open all the time!)

[Magnir]

OK, you guys are awesome, thanks for the links and thanks again to everyone involved in the Wiki. I'll have to browse through it in my downtime and see what needs help where and see what I can do to chip in.

I also think that the crafting calculator (and any other 'must-have' add-ons) should have a sticky thread for them somewhere around here.