Comparison of Storage in Housing

[Korial]

Being bored one day whilst the EU servers were down, I decided to crunch some numbers with regards to how efficient the various housing options were in regards to storing your stuff:

Name : The name of the structure
Item : The number of item stacks that can be stored
Cap. : The bulk capacity
Area : The total area, in square metres (1 world unit = 1 metre)
X, Y : The extent of the structure, in metres
I/A : The number of items per square metre (Item / Area) - Higher is better
C/A : The bulk capacity per square metre (Item / Area) - Higher is better

Name
Items
Capacity
Area
X
Y
Items/Area
Capacity/Area
Fiendish Large House
60
4500
600
24
25
0.100
7.500
Dwarven Small House
30
2750
216
18
12
0.139
12.731
Dwarven Large House
55
4250
550
25
22
0.100
7.727
Sslik Medium House
50
4000
525
21
25
0.095
7.619
Saris Tiny Hut
25
2000
120
12
10
0.208
16.667
Saris Manor House
70
5250
828
36
23
0.085
6.341
Saris Medium House
50
3750
486
27
18
0.103
7.716
*Human Large House
60
4750
667
29
23
0.090
7.121
Human Medium House
60
4750
702
27
26
0.085
6.766
Human Hut
40
3250
330
22
15
0.121
9.848
Sslik Tiny Hut
25
2500
182
13
14
0.137
13.736
Tier 1 House
20
1500
49
7
7
0.408
30.612
Tier 2 House
40
3000
294
21
14
0.136
10.204
Tier 3 House
60
4500
608
32
19
0.099
7.401
Tier 4 House
80
6000
1008
42
24
0.079
5.952
Tier 5 House
100
7500
1595
55
29
0.063
4.702
Tier 6 House
120
9000
2176
68
32
0.055
4.136
Human Guild House
150
11000
1054
31
34
0.142
10.436
Tier 1 Guild House
60
4685
256
16
16
0.234
22.207
Tier 2 Guild House
120
9375
576
24
24
0.208
16.276
Tier 3 Guild House
180
14000
2500
50
50
0.072
5.600
Tier 4 Guild House
240
18750
2500
50
50
0.096
7.500
Tier 5 Guild House
300
23450
5625
75
75
0.053
4.169
Tier 6 Guild House
360
28125
5625
75
75
0.144
5.000
Cloth Tent (Blue or Brown)
10
450
39
6.5
6
0.256
11.538

(edit: [code] tags seem to ignore things like newlines/carriage returns, so here's a fugly table instead [;)])

(another edit: added the Cloth Tent entry to the bottom. Please note the X/Y measurements are fairly rough, but close enough given the funky footprint of these eyesores[8-|])

[Korial]

The Human Large house is marked with an asterisk because the table does take into account it's actual footprint shape. At least one quarter of the square it occupies is available for other structures.

Now, what struck me as strange was how the Tier 1 Human Guildhouse appears to be a good choice. It compares very well with the Tier 3 Human House, with a smaller footprint, and much easier construction requirements. And also comes with the bindstone. Now, I can only guess I'm missing the reason why you shouldn't build a T1 guildhouse...

With respect to the Tiered human housing, I noticed that you would be better off building two lower-tier houses than one higher tier house. The only downside I can see is that your storage would be split over more than one structure.

[AA0]

I believe you can only have one guild house/plot, so if you build a t1, you can't build two in a smaller area to make up for it.

[Korial]

I believe you can only have one guild house/plot, so if you build a t1, you can't build two in a smaller area to make up for it.

Ah ha, that would be it then. Still, it's not that much of a problem, given how the T1 and the T2 guildhouses appear, on paper at least, to be a very good choice for storage.

[Boryon]

Is it just cos I'm using IE, or have you missed a few /tr tags, Korial? The table appears all on one line to me...

Boryon

[Korial]

Is it just cos I'm using IE, or have you missed a few /tr tags, Korial? The table appears all on one line to me...

Boryon

Just checked, in IE it is on one line... yet in Mozilla it's a nicely formatted table... working on it now...

[Boryon]

'tis looking good now, thanks Korial.
*mutters something about IE*

Boryon

[Quool]

I believe you can only have one guild house/plot, so if you build a t1, you can't build two in a smaller area to make up for it.

You can have more then one guild house per plot, though only one of each tier.

Note that t3-t5 guild houses don't have square footprints either, so they are slightly better then the numbers suggest, but still less efficient then t1 by far.

[Landolph]

This is a great post...thanks for all the info. [:)]

[saphosar]

I don't remember the size of these small cloth tents, but they can hold 10 items with 450 bulk. As they are cheat to build, they seem to be a good starting structure for construction as you can use them to temporary store construction material (e.g. you have 25 construction items but need only 24).

-Saphosar

[Korial]

OK, I just tried to measure the Cloth Tents, and came up with 6.5m X and 6m Y, roughly. Going with that, we end up with:

Cloth Tent (blue or brown):
Items: 10
Capacity: 450
Area: 39
X: 6.5 Y: 6
Items/Area: 0.256
Cap./Area: 11.538

I'll add these to the bottom of the table.

[Dvergar]

and this list shows perfectly how BAD higher tier buildings are [:(] With higher tiers, you should get MORE bulk/items per sqm, not LESS.

Seeing that a t6 guildhouse, which isXXXL and a mega-PITA to build, offering less bulk/item per sqm than any t1 building. In fact, less than absolutely any building, besides 3 other t5/t6 buildings... [N]

The bulk of higher tier buildings needs to be upped a lot, so that the relation between space and bulk/items is back in line with smaller buildings and the work involved...

And very bad that the t3 guildhouse is as huge as the t4 one, so the choice is only t2 or t4, no need to waste time on t3 with the same footprint but less bulk than a t4 one...

[Landolph]

Korial -- i just finished a Tier 2 guildhouse in game, and it says that the bulk capacity is 9375. I haven't tried filling it all the way up to see if maybe that is a typo. Can anyone else confirm?

[Quool]

The table in this thread is wrong, T2 Guild House 9375 bulk, 16.3 bulk/square metre.

[Korial]

The table in this thread is wrong, T2 Guild House 9375 bulk, 16.3 bulk/square metre.

thank you for the update, I'll edit in those numbers.

[Korial]

Shameless and deliberate bump

[Koragan]

Bump

[AmonGwareth]

Korial,

A very cool thread, thanks for posting it. As you might have seen in the "Design Preview" one of the things we're doing is looking into housing storage, with the intent of possibly making some changes. As luck may have it, I got this one and I was actually doing some review of it yesterday.

No changes have been made yet, but we are considering many options and discussing many things about housing, construction costs, bulk, etc. I hadn't thought of comparing the storage / area of the structure. Neat idea, thanks for the info.

- Amon

[LaiAhna]

Korial,

A very cool thread, thanks for posting it. As you might have seen in the "Design Preview" one of the things we're doing is looking into housing storage, with the intent of possibly making some changes. As luck may have it, I got this one and I was actually doing some review of it yesterday.

No changes have been made yet, but we are considering many options and discussing many things about housing, construction costs, bulk, etc. I hadn't thought of comparing the storage / area of the structure. Neat idea, thanks for the info.

- Amon

So does this mean that all the work and materials we have already spent are for naught? I will not do that again.

[Smeglor]

The main things I was involved in discussing were increases to storage capacities, and lowering of construction resource bulk.

Maybe other things, too, I don't know.