New Delta DrainBolt.

[Sindala]

So in the patch note's I see...

-Drain Bolt damage increased significantly.

Is this for bi-peds as my Dragon still cast's the same damage as before the patch? (130-160)

[Sindala]

I should add I was fully Dragon buffed before and after and use Drainbolt 10 on both also.

[LOVWYRM]

160-206 here- only dragon buffs- need to check on t5 mobs- will report later

Flameus highest 279 with ice attack on mobs in swamp (exept ice-dragon buffs only)

[Sindala]

Yeah, everyone is gonna have different readings due to TP allocation/ scales/ ect.
My point was since I knew this change was gonna happen (and I love to use this on my caster Dragon) I took readings before and compared them to after the change.
My understanding of the words 'increased significantly' are meaning 'a lot higher', and not 'about the same'.

Hard to make a call on it though when we don't know what about the 'damage' was changed....frequency, top end, low end, crit, ect.

[AmonGwareth]

Only the min/max damage values were altered. Everything else about them remained the same. I can't list them all, but here are two to look at:

Drain Bolt V went from a base damage range of 44-50 to 66-73, an increase of 47.9%.
Drain Bolt X went from a base damage range of 84-90 to 111-118, an increase of 31.6%.

[Sindala]

Ok, Makes sense now Cheers for that...........now all we need is an Improved Drain bolt since it's still a lot lower than Improved Prime bolt so we'll all carry on using prime bolt as a 1st choice.

[Calyndrell]

Ok, Makes sense now Cheers for that...........now all we need is an Improved Drain bolt since it's still a lot lower than Improved Prime bolt so we'll all carry on using prime bolt as a 1st choice.

What so you expect it to deal as much as Primebolt be faster than PB AND heal.... erm no its called a trade off.. you deal a little less per bolt but cast faster and heal too.

[Sindala]

Drain bolt heals??? Lol, i'll have to look into that as I've never noticed any healing going on

[AmonGwareth]

Heh, it does! Drain Bolt X returns as much as 45% of the damage you inflict back to you. Probably didn't notice it much cause I'm not sure it has a combat message and the damage was fairly low. Our goal in raising the damage was to get it up above non-Improved techniqued bolt spells.

[Sindala]

Hehe, all these years and i'm still learning. I thought Drainbolt actually took a bit of your HP each cast to make it more potent. Like a 'draining' bolt.

[Guaran]

Only the min/max damage values were altered. Everything else about them remained the same. I can't list them all, but here are two to look at:

Drain Bolt V went from a base damage range of 44-50 to 66-73, an increase of 47.9%.
Drain Bolt X went from a base damage range of 84-90 to 111-118, an increase of 31.6%.

One thing to remember is that the above damage ranges you modified, are actually NOT significant increases. The increase on Drain Bolt X is 26 to 28. Not really what I would call "significant".

Spell damage mainly comes from base stats of the players such as spell-skill (Primal in this case), power, and to a lesser extent focus.

Those stats produce a "base damage" amount, then, the spells listed damage range is added on (randomly chosen), and lastly the guassian bell or whatever it is called applies a last amount of randoming to the damage. What I am trying to say is that increasing the spells "Damage range" is only a small change, added in the latter portion of the damage calculation.

To demonstrate what I am trying to point out, any level 100 player, pick a t1 bolt. I believe level 1 spirit bolt's damage is listed as "2-4". It will be obvious to anyone who has leveled up that the damage is far higher than 2 to 4. My biped's t1 spirit bolt hits for 150 to 175. So we could make an educated guess that this toons base spell damage from spirit spells is calculating out to around 160, then 2 to 4 is added, and lastly the damage is modified by the final bell-curve randoming process. So the damage ends up hitting for on average 163 damage. This number bears little resemblance to the spells stated damage of 2 to 4.

So to make a truly significant change to drain bolt, the damage would need increased yet again.

My dragon is tooth&claw spec'd, but does have around 200 tp's in Primal. Before the change my Drain Bolt X hit for 45 to 70. Now it seems to be hitting for 55 to 80. Still so incredibly low that it isn't worth hotkeying.

[AmonGwareth]

The damage isn't going to be increased again. The damage is above other bolt spells and provides a heal and was merely increased to address concerns that the damage was lower than techniqued bolt spells.