Epic Forms and token

[Berseker]

First sorry for my poor english.

Second... Epic Forms and token...
I already had all the old forms scribed but don't already had all the items... But at least i was capable of doing all.
Some found with hunt, some bought (1-2 or 5 gold for form).
Now i haven't the old form scribed, i have few token, not even enough for buy 1 new form...
Done 1 quest for lesser... 10 token... need over 6k for have all... so i had to hunt about 600 times a "lesser" mob for be capable of do... something i was already capable of doing?
Is like attunement, have to redo all again isn't a "new thing", is boring.
New things ok, redo old things in another way nope.

Hunting "epic mobs" for craft items is good, have to hunt 10-50-100-600 times for be capable to craft it, when you were already capable nope.

So please fix this thing, because for me is bad.

[Korchak Strongbone]

Your English may be a little poor, but I understand you loud and clear. I think I had 4 Reklar formulas un-scribed in my vault and a few pieces for various things. I have 3 sets of 24 tokens thats 72 epic cores? There is still one strange form I had that changed name for the Talon not sure how that got missed or what to do with it now. I hear that it takes 288 to make a new weapon and I had quite a bit of stuff and it's 72? Yea I'm not sure it really adds up.

[Calyndrell]

Your English may be a little poor, but I understand you loud and clear. I think I had 4 Reklar formulas un-scribed in my vault and a few pieces for various things. I have 3 sets of 24 tokens thats 72 epic cores? There is still one strange form I had that changed name for the Talon not sure how that got missed or what to do with it now. I hear that it takes 288 to make a new weapon and I had quite a bit of stuff and it's 72? Yea I'm not sure it really adds up.

I had all of reklars and Valkors biped forms scribed (atleast I think it was all) I know there was 6 of them... not impressed at getting only a tiny fraction of the required tokens back.. if it was half it woulda been fine.. but 24 for each form.. no not happy at that. And the fact it unscribed forms too.. fortunately for me I already made the epic items I needed but. if i want more in the future i have some serious hunting to do.

Would I like to be reimbersed for more sure. course I would.
Is it game breaking no.

[Darkwing_Duck]

It`s this very reason I never got into epic hunts/crafts. keep changing things to make it more a pain then it`s worth. no thanks. Spending so many gold to buy the forms, only to have them stripped away, and given little to nothing in compensation? Seems to me, they`re trying to chase away all the elder players. I`ll stick to simple plot/lair work, and regular quest lines. least until those get scrapped/revamped too.

[LOVWYRM]

Darkwing, the forms have been epic loot- no gold lost here.

Lets give the new sytem a try- the old one was not good enough anymore. Something had to be done.

[Alisto]

Darkwing, the forms have been epic loot- no gold lost here.

Lets give the new sytem a try- the old one was not good enough anymore. Something had to be done.

Darkwing is probably referring to that you could buy an epic form off the connie from someone else. I know I sold a couple for a heft chunk of shinies.

[starlight]

To reply to the tokens thing, I am sorry Lovwyrm, but i do not agree with the choices that were made to give 24 tokens for each master form a player has already earned once already and have taken away from them in a instant to be force to do the same grind all over again is unacceptable, Granted I only had 3 valkor forms scribed but each one i worked for and idea of 24 tokens as "fair compensation" is nothing more than a insult to all players that worked for what they got. For me I feel the only acceptable compensations for the master forms that each player has scribed would either be a replacement form or enough tokens to re purchase every master form that was wrongfully taken from them

[hallucin8]

@Lov, I don't think we're arguing the new system, it seems to have generated significant interest and re-invigorated the epic hunts (from what I've heard). The problem is with the exchanges made. As has been mentioned here and other threads, those who had the forms and even many pieces (yes, this includes myself, so take it with a grain of selfish-salt), these took a ******** long time to get, many lost rolls. And now we've been 'gifted' a mere one-twelfth (I think Guaran mentioned in another post), of that effort. So we lost all the forms and now don't even have enough to buy ONE form... that's the gripe here I believe... WHY TAKE THE FORMS AT ALL?!? *sigh*