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Thread: Determination/Primal Roar broke or has it been nerfed?

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    Default Determination/Primal Roar broke or has it been nerfed?



    I no longer see the tooth and claw bonous with my determination self buff i cast..



    EDIT:
    I also noticed primal roar has been change this looks like a stealth nerf has been done to use dragons[:@]

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    Default Re: Determination/Primal Roar broke or has it been nerfed?

    You should post screen shots of your Character - Skills (adventure) window, before and after.

    Tooth and Claw is 75% dexterity and 25% strength, so there should be a 4 or 5 (actually 4.5) point difference.

    Edit: Yes, the descriptions are missing the "+ X to attack" wording.
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    Default Re: Determination/Primal Roar broke or has it been nerfed?

    Determination never gave a bonus to T&C. what it gave was a bonus to "chance-to-hit" (similar to accuracy tech on spells). Consequently, you cannot tell if this is a stealth nerf or simply a text error simply by looking at the T&C statistic, since it would not directly raise T&C.

    AE needs to look into this ASAP. If the accuracy buff was removed this is a MAJOR nerf to dragons that will make it almost impossible for a dragon to hit the highest level mobs.
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    Default Re: Determination/Primal Roar broke or has it been nerfed?

    Ummm, no. Determination and Primal roar did have more than stat buffs, because they used to be 2 separate abilities each a long time ago, and those four abilities were merged into two.

    Determination did give a T&C bonus, and Primal Roar did give a Primal bonus. Now they don't.

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    Default Re: Determination/Primal Roar broke or has it been nerfed?

    Hmm. guess I could be wrong. I'll go log in and double check. I recall what my T&C is supposed to be with determination up so if this is a nerf I should be able to tell right away.
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    Default Re: Determination/Primal Roar broke or has it been nerfed?

    Seems its a Display bug and not a nerf according to thread in General
    http://community.istaria.com/Web/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=38974
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    Default Re: Determination/Primal Roar broke or has it been nerfed?

    He means this thread:
    http://community.istaria.com/Web/Sho...x?PostID=38856

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    Tympest is actually correct about the abilities, the only issue with all these abilities is that they have an attack_mod on them, and that their "effect" is not showing up in the "Show Details" window.

    There is a hotfix that is being applied to the servers tonight , that will correct this display error.
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    Default Re: Determination/Primal Roar broke or has it been nerfed?

    LOL...yes i ment that other one, my bad[:)]
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