My son and I have had nothing but problems with this new patcher. we have done what the lame directions ask of us to do (which is more than any game in the history of gaming has asked). He runs windows 98 and it has never worked and I run Xp.. and it worked once for me. we are both running the old loader at this time. We ( I ) am going to cancel my subscribtion(s) if we are expected to use any other means than normal to log into this game. This game is fun and better in many areas but, the it's become tiresome to put up with all this crap. I have tried to be reasonable and not judgemental. This last patcher is enough... the game has too many bugs... I have to move items from disk to move disk to inventory, I have to drag and drop tools from inv to my hand for them to work..,.... countless bugs that need fixing and they insist on adding new buggy crap. I am fed up and want more possitive change and less bs. I have remained possitive till now.. and now enough is enough and I want thisto end.... It's a game worth waiting for... but I am not waiting forever for things you promised the beta testers nor am I going to stick around for stuff that breaks stuff that works while the things that are broke are left unchanged. Dev's, I am on your side... I am trying... but I am at my end....